[rpd] Registration Opens for the AFRINIC-36 Public Policy Meeting

Tue Dec 9 18:15:42 UTC 2025

Hello Abdulkarim,

Unless you have a specific reference to any section of the PDP that has not
been followed or that we need to follow then I don't think your comment
helps to make progress. I have indicated why waiting until face 2 face is
not good enough and I further explain below.

The PDP in its current wording (as per 3.3 of the CPM paragraph 2)
envisages that at ppm a current Co-Chair term would expire and new Co-Chair
installed. For reasons that we all know the pdwg didn't install a Co-Chair
at the ppm yet.

Normally there should even be no need for discussion and the current
Co-Chairs should have just continued until next ppm but because of the lack
of clarity and to address a situation that the PDP did not envisage the
board stepped in with a way forward in good faith and also called the
meeting tomorrow a ppm where I expect the pdwg will also formerly endorse
the reasonable way forward provided by the Board.

Abdulkarim you were once a Co-Chair and know what preparations are made by
Co-Chairs before ppm so if there are no Co-Chairs now there will be no
policy to discuss at face 2 face and I do not believe it will be a good use
of our time to have a single item at f2f PPM.

This is why I believe having that single item at tomorrow's meeting makes a
lot of sense and then by face 2 face we have proper election/policy
discussion.

That said, we can also just agree that because no ppm has held and no new
Co-Chair elected current one should continue that agreement can be either
on this mailing list or/and at the meeting tomorrow. We don't have to
complicate or suspect one another on this basic matter.

Regards

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kindly excuse typos

On Tue, 9 Dec 2025, 10:10 am Abdulkarim Oloyede, <oloyede.aa at unilorin.edu.ng>
wrote:

> Seun,
> The policy document is very clear of co-chair selection process.
> Let us follow it. That is all I ask for. I dont think this should be
> difficult.
>
>  None of the steps has been followed in the suggestion.
>
> AK
>
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2025, 3:54 PM Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello Abdulkarim,
>>
>> The rpd is for all policy related discussions and matter of Co-Chairs is
>> very much a related topic, why do you call the current discussion of having
>> a Co-Chair a back door approach?
>>
>> What is the rule that is not followed and which one needs to be followed?
>>
>> There is no way the meeting tomorrow will have policy items to discuss
>> since there is currently no coordination and the Board has suggested a way
>> forward, what I then expect is that there should be a few minutes tomorrow
>> when the board will re state the message for the pdwg to endorse for
>> formality and the Co-Chairs then continue to act at temporary chairs until
>> when we conduct elections.
>>
>> Regards
>> ----
>> Sent from my mobile
>> kindly excuse typos
>>
>> On Tue, 9 Dec 2025, 8:10 am Abdulkarim Oloyede, <
>> oloyede.aa at unilorin.edu.ng> wrote:
>>
>>> Seun,
>>> The question is cant all these wait so that no one question the
>>> legitimacy of the process. We always like the back door approch. Let the
>>> rules be followed. Simple as ABC.
>>>
>>> AK.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2025, 1:54 PM Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello Abdulkarim,
>>>>
>>>> There is no rush to elect Co-Chairs but there is a need to have pdwg
>>>> coordination and that is done by Co-Chairs. It's not just for the meeting
>>>> tomorrow but for the pdwg itself.
>>>>
>>>> There are various policies at various state in the PD Process and
>>>> someone needs to coordinate that in preparation for upcoming ppm next year.
>>>> Discussions on the list and new policies needs to be coordinated so
>>>> Co-Chairs are required for that reason.
>>>>
>>>> As it has been suggested before, current Co-Chairs can continue as
>>>> temporary Co-Chairs until f2f ppm. The organisation leadership is restored
>>>> so pdwg should function properly as well.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>> ----
>>>> Sent from my mobile
>>>> kindly excuse typos
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, 9 Dec 2025, 6:47 am Abdulkarim Oloyede, <
>>>> oloyede.aa at unilorin.edu.ng> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>
>>>>> We have started again. Is it not possible to just follow the rules.
>>>>> Why the rush?. Did we die when no rpm was held.  From the Agenda no policy
>>>>> is being discussed. Therefore  Why do we need to appoint Co- chairs?
>>>>> through the back door. Why? Exactly what got us to this point.  The Meeting
>>>>> does not need co-chairs what is needed is just one person to guide the
>>>>> meeting and outline how we can get back to the rules. The board chair or
>>>>> someone from the boad can simply do that.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *Prof. Abdulkarim Ayopo Oloyede FNSE*.
>>>>> *Professor of Wireless Telecommunications*
>>>>> *Department of Telecommunications Science, University of Ilorin,
>>>>> Nigeria*
>>>>> *Director, Centre for Research Development and In-House Training
>>>>> (CREDIT)   University of Ilorin *
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Dec 8, 2025, 10:38 AM Ish Sookun via RPD <rpd at afrinic.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I concur with Seun.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don’t think that the Board acted in bad faith here. The rationale
>>>>>> will be to allow this to proceed until we have the time frame for electing
>>>>>> new PDCG Co-Chairs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ———
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ish Sookun
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Systems Architect at La Sentinelle Ltd
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > On 4 Dec 2025, at 20:44, Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Hi Jordi,
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > I agree that conducting elections may be too late because what will
>>>>>> be held in December is not really a full blown PPM. That said, I also see
>>>>>> the point Sami is making, ultimately PDWG has to own the process as it is
>>>>>> the PDWG that elects chairs or temporary chairs as (applicable) but I
>>>>>> believe the Board has also acted in good faith.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Inview of this and considering that PDWG needs to own this process
>>>>>> i like to propose that we accept the action of the Board to allow the
>>>>>> outgoing Policy Development Working Group (PDWG)’s Co-Chairs, Mr Vincent
>>>>>> Ngundi and Mr Darwin Da Costa, to serve as Co-Chairs until when we will
>>>>>> hold a face 2 face PPM which should not be later than 30th July 2026,
>>>>>> subject to any unplanned circumstances.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > The rationale for the proposal is to ensure some stability and
>>>>>> coordination within the PDWG and also to allow enough time for planning for
>>>>>> election. It will be good for anyone that opposes the proposed way forward
>>>>>> to state their reasons as well with an alternate solution.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Regards
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On Thu, 4 Dec 2025 at 09:34, jordi.palet--- via RPD <
>>>>>> rpd at afrinic.net> wrote:
>>>>>> > Hi Sami,
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > I’m not sure if I’m understanding you correctly.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > I guess the point (considering that we don’t have sufficient time
>>>>>> for a full re-election) is to propose, as a 1st point in the meeting, a
>>>>>> formal acceptance of the WG to continue with the current co-chairs until a
>>>>>> complete election process can be arranged?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Regards,
>>>>>> > Jordi
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > @jordipalet
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >> El 4 dic 2025, a las 15:57, Sami Salih <sami.salih at outlook.com>
>>>>>> escribió:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Dear Members of the Board and Community,
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Thank you for your email and for the arrangements made for the
>>>>>> upcoming AFRINIC-36 Public Policy Meeting (PPM), as well as for the
>>>>>> continued efforts of Mr. Vincent Ngundi and Mr. Darwin Da Costa under the
>>>>>> current exceptional circumstances.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> I would like to respectfully clarify—based on the AFRINIC Bylaws,
>>>>>> the Consolidated Policy Manual (CPM), and the PDWG Guidelines—that the
>>>>>> selection or election of PDWG Co-Chairs is a responsibility of the AFRINIC
>>>>>> community through the Public Policy Meeting, and not the Board.
>>>>>> >> For reference:
>>>>>> >>     • Article 11.2 of the AFRINIC Bylaws authorizes the Board only
>>>>>> to call and organize the Public Policy Meeting. This authority exists to
>>>>>> facilitate the community in conducting its business, including the
>>>>>> election/selection of PDWG Co-Chairs, but does not grant the Board the
>>>>>> power to appoint or elect Co-Chairs.
>>>>>> >>     •
>>>>>> >>     • CPM, Section 3.3 states: “The PDWG Chairs are chosen by the
>>>>>> AFRINIC community during the Public Policy Meeting and serve staggered
>>>>>> two-year terms.”
>>>>>> >>     •
>>>>>> >>     • Both the CPM and the PDP affirm that all resource-policy
>>>>>> development—including the selection of PDWG Co-Chairs—follows an open,
>>>>>> bottom-up, community-driven model through Public Policy Meetings and broad
>>>>>> community participation.
>>>>>> >> In this context, and to align the upcoming PPM with the
>>>>>> established PDP and CPM requirements, I would like to propose a small
>>>>>> adjustment to the agenda:
>>>>>> >> Reserve a dedicated 15–20 minute slot at the beginning of the
>>>>>> meeting for the community to elect/select the new PDWG Co-Chairs.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> This adjustment would ensure that:
>>>>>> >> 1. The PDWG session is chaired in full compliance with the CPM and
>>>>>> PDP.
>>>>>> >> 2. The community retains clear ownership of the policy development
>>>>>> process.
>>>>>> >> 3. The legitimacy of all subsequent discussions and decisions is
>>>>>> fully maintained.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Thank you once again for organizing this important meeting. I
>>>>>> would also like to take this opportunity to encourage the community to
>>>>>> actively participate in the AFRINIC-36 PPM and in the PDWG processes, as
>>>>>> strong community engagement is essential to maintaining a transparent,
>>>>>> bottom-up, and community-driven policy development environment.
>>>>>> >> With Regards,
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Sami Salih,
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Sent from Outlook for Android
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> From: AFRINIC Communication via RPD <rpd at afrinic.net>
>>>>>> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 3, 2025 1:23:52 pm
>>>>>> >> To: rpd <rpd at afrinic.net>
>>>>>> >> Subject: [rpd] Registration Opens for the AFRINIC-36 Public Policy
>>>>>> Meeting
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> [Version en français au bas]
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Dear Members and Community,
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Pursuant to Article 11.2 of the AFRINIC Bylaws, the Board, after
>>>>>> consultation with the Receiver, is pleased to invite you to the AFRINIC-36
>>>>>> Public Policy Meeting (PPM) taking place online on Wednesday 10 December
>>>>>> 2025 from 11.30 -13.00 UTC.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> The Meeting will provide the AFRINIC Community with the
>>>>>> opportunity to reconnect and assess whether the Policy Development Process
>>>>>> has withstood the challenges the organisation has faced. It will also
>>>>>> discuss the way forward towards building an inclusive and collaborative
>>>>>> community.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> In view of the exceptional circumstances, Mr Vincent Ngundi and Mr
>>>>>> Darwin Da Costa, the outgoing Policy Development Working Group (PDWG)’s
>>>>>> Co-Chairs, have graciously agreed to continue overseeing and coordinating
>>>>>> the upcoming PPM, including the moderation of the RPD mailing list, until
>>>>>> the selection of new Co-Chairs in line with established procedures.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> We would like to invite you to fully participate and register in
>>>>>> large numbers for the AFRINIC-36 PPM.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Register for the AFRINIC-36 Public Policy Meeting here>>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> https://us02web.zoom.us/meeting/register/8xeAdz56RLuy9ynPaq1OnQ#/registration
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> The detailed programme for the Day is also available at:
>>>>>> https://af36.afrinic.net/
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> We look forward to seeing you online soon for the AFRINIC-36
>>>>>> Public Policy Meeting.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Kind Regards,
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> AFRINIC Board of Directors and the Receiver
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> ……………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………..
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Chers membres et communauté d'AFRINIC,
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Conformément à l'article 11.2 des statuts d'AFRINIC, le conseil
>>>>>> d'administration, après consultation avec le Receveur, a le plaisir de vous
>>>>>> inviter à la réunion publique sur les politiques (PPM) AFRINIC-36 qui se
>>>>>> tiendra en ligne le mercredi 10 décembre 2025 de 11h30 à 13h00 GMT.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Cette réunion permettra à la communauté AFRINIC de se retrouver et
>>>>>> d'évaluer si le processus d'élaboration des politiques a su résister aux
>>>>>> défis auxquels l'organisation a été confrontée. Elle permettra également de
>>>>>> discuter de la voie à suivre pour bâtir une communauté inclusive et
>>>>>> collaborative.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Compte tenu des circonstances exceptionnelles, M. Vincent Ngundi
>>>>>> et M. Darwin Da Costa, les co-présidents sortants du Policy Development
>>>>>> Working Group (PDWG), ont gracieusement accepté de continuer à superviser
>>>>>> et à coordonner la prochaine PPM, y compris la modération de la liste de
>>>>>> diffusion RPD, jusqu'à la sélection de nouveaux co-présidents conformément
>>>>>> aux procédures établies.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Nous vous invitons à participer pleinement et à vous inscrire en
>>>>>> grand nombre à la PPM d'AFRINIC-36.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Inscrivez-vous à la réunion publique sur les politiques AFRINIC-36
>>>>>> ici >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> https://us02web.zoom.us/meeting/register/8xeAdz56RLuy9ynPaq1OnQ#/registration
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Le programme détaillé de la journée est également disponible à
>>>>>> l'adresse suivante : https://af36.afrinic.net/
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Nous nous réjouissons de vous retrouver bientôt en ligne pour la
>>>>>> réunion publique sur les politiques AFRINIC-36.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Cordialement,
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Le conseil d'administration et le Receveur d'AFRINIC
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>>>>>> > Bringing another down does not take you up - think about your
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