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[rpd] A question for the PDWG

Tue May 24 14:41:47 UTC 2022

Hi Mike,


While this is debatable, the parts of the bylaws that are broken, where already broken when those bylaws were created in order to constitute AFRINIC to comply with the ICP-2.


As a consequence, the recognition of AFRINIC could be declared invalid, because *was not* complying with “3) Bottom-up self-governance structure for setting local policies”.


I will prefer not to go that direction, but this means that broken thins should be fixed, not ignored by the Board every time we come to the same conclusions. I guess you (others) will agree with me that it is necessary to fix whatever is found broken?








El 24/5/22, 16:31, "Mike Silber" <silber.mike at> escribió:


Hi Jordi

On 24 May 2022, at 15:55, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via RPD <rpd at> wrote:




The bylaws are encroaching the community sovereignty in many aspects, which means that the RIR is not complying with the ICP-2.


ICP-2 only requires compliance to allow for a new RIR to be established and recognised. The only ongoing obligation seems to be clause 9 “Record Keeping” and even then I am not really sure it is an ongoing obligation, or just an undertaking at a point in time which ICANN hopes will continue.


ICP-2 does not contain a provision for an RIR to be de-established and does not contain any compliance obligations. I suppose the other RIRs could remove an RIR from the ASO/NRO for non-compliance, however there is no mechanism for that.



What you’re proposing will only increatse to breach of ICP-2.


As above, this idea of a “breach” of ICP-2 is nonsense. AfriNIC has been established and ICP-2 no longer has any status. ICANN [and the ASO/NRO] are not our auditors or a court to adjudicate on compliance.


Happy to debate what the PDP should [or should not] look like, but please stop this appeal to alleged non-compliance or breach of ICP-2.



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