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[rpd] AFRINIC PDWG Co-Chair Selection Timeframe
Daniel I. Yakmut
yakmutd at googlemail.com
Mon Apr 25 17:15:33 UTC 2022
I am a resource member and definitely I do not agreed with the timelines
been concocted. It is against everything democratic and openness. But I
am not surprise, we are toeing the same path of our African Political
Leaders, messing around with any guiding document, that supports good
governance.
What I am saying, since there is going to be a PPM in May, we should do
the right thing, conduct an election/nomination/choosing/imposition or
whatever, during the PPM in Mauritius.
Simply
Daniel
On 25/04/2022 15:17, ABDULKARIM OLOYEDE wrote:
> You need to look in the mirror.
>
> Cheers.
>
> AK
>
> On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 2:49 PM Noah <noah at neo.co.tz> wrote:
>
> You can take the boy from the village but you can not take the
> village out of the boy. Tim Tufuga.
>
> Noah
>
> On Mon, 25 Apr 2022, 16:40 ABDULKARIM OLOYEDE,
> <oloyede.aa at unilorin.edu.ng> wrote:
>
> Dear all,
>
>
> I have tried as much as possible not to make a comment but it
> seems I have to comment on this as I would also be making a
> comment on the other impunity the board leadership have
> decided to plunge AFRINIC into recently.
> 1. This timeline is not acceptable because I don't know how
> Co-chairs would emerge via the use of the mailing list. It was
> tried last time what we ended up having are impostors. Two
> people who claimed they emerged as consensus candidates when
> some others on the mailing did not agree. I see no
> consensus in the process. Then I object to criteria J. I see
> no reason for this. Endorsement from resource members shows
> some form of affiliation. co-chairs are not expected to be
> endorsed this way.
>
> @OWEN: I hope i am not eligible to be a board member yet
> Cheers
>
> AK
>
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 24, 2022 at 6:37 AM Owen DeLong via RPD
> <rpd at afrinic.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>> On Apr 23, 2022, at 09:09 , Daniel Yakmut via RPD
>> <rpd at afrinic.net> wrote:
>>
>> Dear Sylvain,
>>
>> You answered my questions, we can do things when and how
>> we like it. It clearly also shows that we can interpret
>> laws and rules at our whims and caprices.
>>
>> As I can see the spirit of the letters of the CPM does
>> not matter anymore.
>>
>> The world is a jungle indeed.
>>
>
> With beliefs like this, you are now eligible to be a
> member of the AFRINIC board.
>
> Owen
>
>> Simply,
>> Daniel
>>
>> On Fri, 22 Apr 2022, 18:32 Sylvain Baya,
>> <abscoco at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Dear PDWG,
>> Hope this email finds you in good health!
>>
>> Please see my comments below, inline...
>>
>> Le vendredi 22 avril 2022, Daniel I. Yakmut via RPD
>> <rpd at afrinic.net> a écrit :
>>
>> Dear All,
>>
>>
>> Hi Daniel,
>> Thanks for your email, brother!
>>
>> Have we amended the process of
>> selecting/nominating/electing Co-Chairs now?
>>
>>
>>
>> Please process are you refering to?
>>
>> Remember that we had agreed that the procedure
>> available to replace PDWG's Chairs is very open;
>> and it's not seems to be a bug in the actual version
>> (1.6) of the PDP [1].
>> __
>> [1]: <https://afrinic.net/policy/manual/amp#PDP-Process>
>>
>> As you know, the appropriate words are: *choose*,
>> *nominate*, *select*, *selection*; and each of those
>> correspond to a particular situation about PDWG
>> Chairs' tenure and replacement.
>>
>> Of course, in case of a replacement after a full
>> mandate, the appropriate term is: "*nominate*
>> during the PPM". Is it preventing the PDWG to do
>> whatever it see fit before the PPM; in order to
>> ensure itself that the *nomination* is successfully
>> conducted during the up coming PPM?
>>
>> That's the question!
>>
>> <paste_CPM_section_3.3>
>>
>>
>> 3.3 The Policy Development Working Group (PDWG)
>>
>> The Policy Development Working Group (PDWG) discusses
>> the proposals. Anyone may participate via the
>> Internet or in person. PDWG work is carried out
>> through the Resource Policy Discussion mailing list
>> (rpd at afrinic.net) and the bi-annual AFRINIC Public
>> Policy Meetings (PPM). Any person, participating
>> either in person or remotely, is considered to be
>> part of the Policy Development Working Group.
>>
>> The Policy Development Working Group has two Chairs
>> to perform its administrative functions. The PDWG
>> Chairs are chosen by the AFRINIC community during the
>> Public Policy Meeting and serve staggered two-year
>> terms. The term ends during the first Public Policy
>> Meeting corresponding to the end of the term for
>> which they were appointed. A term may begin or end no
>> sooner than the first day of the Public Policy
>> Meeting and no later than the last day of the Public
>> Policy Meeting as determined by the mutual agreement
>> of the current Chair and the new Chair.
>>
>> If the Working Group Chair is unable to serve his or
>> her full term, the Working Group may select a
>> replacement to serve the remainder of the term. If
>> the Working Group Chairs are unable to attend the
>> Public Policy Meeting, the Working Group shall
>> nominate a Chair for the session. Anyone present at
>> the meeting, whether in person or by remote
>> participation, may participate in the selection
>> process for a temporary Chair.
>>
>> </paste_CPM_section_3.3>
>>
>> Because the proposed activities and timeline
>> looks extremely strange to me.
>>
>>
>> Please, could you elaborate on what you see as
>> strange?
>>
>>
>> However, if I am missing something, please can i
>> be referred to the reviewed (new) document that
>> says we can now select/nominate/elect co-chairs
>> on the mailing list.
>>
>>
>> It's clearly not about a formal document/DPP :-/
>>
>> But if you want, feel free to propose a DPP to
>> clarify what appeares to be void into the running
>> version of the CPM.
>>
>> ...i agree that the *nomination* is done during the
>> PPM, per CPM section 3.3, but what's preventing
>> the PDWG to consensually prepare its success
>> beforehand? It's exactely what's happening right
>> now, imho!
>> Please, see also early comment above.
>>
>> Someone like me is beginning to loose interest
>>
>>
>>
>> ...i understand your say, and i sympatize, brother;
>> but i don't think it's actually the case.
>>
>> It's rather a PDP flexibility which allows the PDWG
>> to consensually and freely do things that could
>> ameliorate its difficult conditions...
>>
>> with us conducting our activities without a
>> standing guide.
>>
>>
>>
>> If you don't like that, still, interesting flexibility,
>> imho! then i encourage you to submit a DPP.
>>
>> Clarifications on is important and urgent.
>>
>>
>>
>> ...i hope this clarifies something!
>>
>> Also, i thank the Policy Liaison Team for the
>> welcomed support provided to the PDWG to
>> guarantee a soft transition to a new PDWG's Chair.
>>
>> Shalom,
>> --sb.
>>
>> Simply,
>>
>> Daniel
>>
>> On 21/04/2022 19:08, AFRINIC Policy Liaison wrote:
>>>
>>> **
>>>
>>> *Dear PDWG,*
>>> *
>>> [...]
>>> *
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Best Regards !
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