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[rpd] Summary of Policy Proposal IPv4 Inter-RIR Resource Transfers Comprehensive Scope AFPUB-2019-IPv4-002-DRAFT07

Jaco Kroon jaco at uls.co.za
Wed Dec 8 19:51:37 UTC 2021


Hi,

On 2021/12/08 17:21, PDWG Chair wrote:
>
> **
>
> *Dear PDWG,*
>
> *
>
> The  summary of the elements that led to the PDWG Chairs decision for
> the proposal IPv4 Inter-RIR Resource Transfers l Comprehensive Scope
> AFPUB-2019-IPv4-002-DRAFT07 that was discussed during the AFRINIC-34
> Public Policy Meeting is as follows:-
>
>
> 1.
>
>     Pending concern.  Suggest the period of time to be modified in the
>     sections 5.7.2.2 and 5.7.2.3 from 16 months to 18 or 24 months
>
> I do not favor coming to  consensus on a policy with a silly clock
> with a plan to amend the clock later. I think we should come to a
> consensus on a complete policy including timing. I propose 24 months,
> but I would find 12 or 18 months acceptable.... If the community can’t
> come to consensus on the timing, then you don’t have consensus on the
> policy since the timing is part of the policy proposal.
>
> 2.
>
>     Pending concern. … I object to the policy so long as it contains
>     the provision in the section 5.7.5, unless it is modified as follow:
>
> The section 5.7.5 to be:AFRINIC may deny a registrant as the source of
> a transfer only if one or more of the following applies:
>
> *
*AFRINIC should or must, may implies it's optional which means none of
these really matters.*
> *
>
> 1.
>
>     Clear evidence that the resources were fraudulently obtained.
>
> 2.
>
>     Registrants are not current on their AFRINIC fees.
>
> 3.
>
>     There is some question or dispute as to whether the registrant is
>     the resource holder of record.
>
> 4.
>
>     There is an unresolved third-party claim to the registration.
>
>
> If one of the above does not apply, then AFRINIC must approve the
> registrant as source of the transfer and proceed unless there is a
> problem with the recipient.
>
> *
*I believe the intent here was "If none of the aboveapplies, then ..."*
> *
>
> 3.
>
>     Pending concern. ...If the African market is already in shortage,
>     then why is there still a free pool? If there is a shortage, then
>     bad policy is protecting the free pool from being issued to
>     legitimate needs.
>
> *
*Surely this policy is about transfer, not about issuing of new
resources, so please help us to understand how this relates?*
> *
>
>
> 4.
>
>     Pending concern. ... Honestly this seems like a lot of steps just
>     to transfer resources from one RIR to another. Since the region
>     currently does not have one, you'd think this would solve problems
>     but instead, this allows for greater AFRINIC interference in a
>     supposedly interference-free transfer. This is still not
>     addressed. Additionally, the staff themselves has pointed out
>     glaring vague and open-ended definitions that should also be
>     addressed. I would definitely support a policy that has less
>     "interference" with RIR than the current one.
>
> 5.
>
>     Pending concern.Issues with the problem statement such as the
>     mention of IPv4 market in the region
>
> 6.
>
>     Pending concern. In 5.7.2 there is no limit or requirement for
>     source and this is negative for AFRINIC and we will kill AFRINIC
>     with these transfers
>
> 7.
>
>     Pending concern. We have a small portion of the limited resources
>     compared to other regions and we cannot accept such policy since
>     the resources are already limited. I would Agree to bring more
>     resources in the region via Legacy resources transfers into the
>     region. I reject such policies to make resources leave the region.
>
>
> The decision of PDWG Co-chairs is that no rough consensus has been
> reached due to the number of valid concerns not yet addressed during
> the online session and from the mailing list. The draft policy
> proposal, therefore, goes back to the RPD mailing list for further
> discussion.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Vincent Ngundi & Darwin Da Costa
>
> AFRINIC PDWG CO-CHAIRS
>
> *
>
>
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