[rpd] Publication of Information (Draft-2) - AFPUB-2021-GEN-001-DRAFT02

Sun Nov 14 09:00:09 UTC 2021

Hi Cheken,

Please provide a clear explanation of your concerns, as I’m failing to understand it and even less, I totally fail to understand the relation that you find among both policies.

I will be more than happy to respond to very specific points that you may have but a generic (and possibly subjection) view can’t help to progress.

Regards,

Jordi

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El 13/11/21 11:28, "Cheken Chetty" <rameez.chetty at gmail.com> escribió:

Hi Jordi, all,

Thank you for the response on the previous thread Jordi, I still feel like there's a similarity with this proposal and the other as an attempt to breach the privacy of the resource members. Forcing members to come forward with their business when AFRINIC is just there to manage resources and not act with authority is not promoting openness and transparency within the Community."

Regards.

On Fri, 12 Nov 2021, 19:26 JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via RPD, <rpd at afrinic.net> wrote:

Hi Gaby, all,

According to existing policies in the CPM, you ask for resources based on justified need.

If the justified need is not for an “immediate use” (1 year seems reasonable, 2 years may be too much already), then there is no sense that you request those resources in advance, or in fact probably AFRINIC will not allocate them and tell you “come back when you’re ready”.

I will understand that a LIR that is deploying a big network with no customers yet, will request a smaller prefix and may be, in the case of IPv6, suggest to AFRINIC that they reserve some contiguos space for the next request. Actually this is already the practice in all the RIRs (sparce allocation).

Note also that the policy text provides a way to avoid the publication if justified, or to delay it. So if there is a bussiness that really requires having all the resources up-front, AFRINIC agree on that (following the CPM), and it requires more time and can’t be disclosed to protect the business, it is a very valid justification.

Regarding the rewording of my last paragraph, may be a language problem not being native speaker, I fail to see what is not clear, and I believe that the staff understood it correctly looking at the IA of the previous version: https://www.afrinic.net/policy/proposals/2021-gen-001-d1#impact

What I’m saying is that in every first “2 years anyversary” of each resourse allocation the policy is “executed” and the summary provided and if agreed, published. Also, I’m stating that the implementation may be phased (slow start) by the staff in such way that there is no need to hire more resources. This is needed because otherwise when the policy is initially implemented there is a high demand of human resources to take over “all” those that already surpassed the 2 years.

I’m not sure to understand your last point.

Regards,

Jordi

@jordipalet

El 12/11/21 11:41, "Gaby Giner" <gabyginernetwork at gmail.com> escribió:

Hi Jordi, hi everybody,

Thanks for a quite insightful proposal. However, this type of proactive action (and the details/parameters that you gave) may not translate well into reality.

Transparency and fairness are important values ofc, given that we operate behind the screen. My concern with the policy would be the parameters that you gave. Do you have a solid statistical basis that says in 2 years, a probable business that asked for resources from AFRINIC would be able to establish their business properly without adverse effects if ever AFRINIC should do as it says in the policy proposal? 

Secondly, your last paragraph:
"This policy shall be implemented in such a way that all the resources allocated/assigned for over 2 years, will be chronologically warned, allowing the staff to process the possible responses of “non-disclosure” without requiring extra human resources."
I'm having trouble understanding this in context with the other content in the proposal. Maybe a rewrite is in order.

Finally, for the first paragraph, I would suggest that it should be rewritten. On the whole, while transparency is good, I think the execution should be considered carefully.

Sincerely, Gaby.

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