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[rpd] Fwd: PDWG Co-Chairs Recall Request

Fernando Frediani fhfrediani at gmail.com
Thu Jul 29 19:44:06 UTC 2021


For quiet a while in PDWG we have pretty much the *same group of people*
who have been trying hard to force a couple of things into PDWG and
AfriNic and which fortunately have been failing on all of them. This is
becoming every day more evident and as much they get turned down on
their tentative they keep trying in a loophole hoping that at some point
they will hit something, but fortunately they keep failing on ALL their
tentatives.

Their way to do things are pretty much static and the very same people
repeat the same stuff over and over and over again and there are
occasions where it seems the messages were all drafted by the same
person. It is too naive from some of them to believe there are much
community members who don't notice this. Below a list of the stuff this
same group tried and it shows the links between some of these episodes
and the type of controversy or even wrong things they keep trying for:

- Tried as much as they could to force the pass of the Inter-RIR
transfer by all means, one of the most important proposals of the
existence of AfriNic and which can change A LOT for the RIR.
- Supported the insertion of stuff never discussed in the PDWG at the
very last minute as "editorial change" to make legacy resources to
remain legacy, which only benefits those who profit from these business
- Tried everything to keep the disastrous ex Co-chairs that were doing a
pretty bad job plus having conflicts with community which were
fortunately recalled later on.
- Opposed as much as they could from new Chairs elections although they
have tried to put their own candidates on that same selection process
(some of them with controvert nomination process by member).
- Not satisfied with not being able to have someone from their group as
Co-Chairs started to disrupt the PDWG and only recognizing Co-Chair
rules when is convenient.
- Tried to fight hardly against proposals that seem to be concerning to
certain type of business they seem to support.
- The very same people supported the same appeal to all proposals,
repeating the very same arguments and almost similar emails written and
repeated over and over.
- Have sent appeals that have problems in complying with the CPM trying
at all costs to stop all possible proposals to carry on their natural
path. A pure dissatisfaction.
- Keep supporting stuff like the usage of African Internet resources out
of the region in the contrary direction of development of African region
and the "right" of a member to take away resources out of the rules

And now this unreasonable recall request just adds up to the list about
show the same static moment.

Honestly, if they have any believe of what they are doing is not being
noticed by most PDWG participants then they might keep trying because
they feel they are taking seriously.
No wonder every time they are faced with someone disputing their
argument they automatically invoke the 'right of freedom' to keep saying
the same repeating stuff.

Fernando

Em 28/07/2021 18:50, Lamiaa Chnayti escreveu:

> Dear community,

>

> I have recently sent a request to the Afrinic Board of Directors to

> recall the PDWG co-chairs, based on theirrecent actions on both the

> last policy meeting and the RPD list, that have proven their inability

> to effectively perform their duties to comply with the process and

> address the concerns expressed on certain policies.

> For the community's information, I have forwarded below my email to

> the board, along with their response acknowledging the recall request,

> which will be discussed at the board's meeting on August 18th.

> Also, please find attached the PDF document outlining the recall

> request's detailed arguments and justifications.

> Best regards,

> Lamiaa

>

> Forwarded Conversation

> Subject: PDWG Co-Chairs Recall Request

> ------------------------

>

> From: *Lamiaa Chnayti* <lamiaachnayti at gmail.com

> <mailto:lamiaachnayti at gmail.com>>

> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2021 at 11:46

> To: Eddy Kayihura <eddy at afrinic.net <mailto:eddy at afrinic.net>>,

> <board at afrinic.net <mailto:board at afrinic.net>>

>

>

> Dear Afrinic Board of Directors,

> I am writing this email on behalf of myself and other community members, enlisted on the attached document, to request the recall of the current PDWG co-chairs. Their recent actions on both the last policy meeting and the RPD list have proved their inability to effectively perform their duties to comply with the process and address the concerns expressed on certain policies.Therefore, in order to reinstate the stability of the process of the PDWG, we find it necessary to request the recall of the current co-chairs and replace them.Please find attached the document outlining the appropriate justifications and supporting arguments of our demand.

>

> Best regards,

>

> Lamiaa

>

>

>

> ----------

> From: <chair at afrinic.net <mailto:chair at afrinic.net>>

> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2021 at 12:20

> To: Lamiaa Chnayti <lamiaachnayti at gmail.com

> <mailto:lamiaachnayti at gmail.com>>

> Cc: <board at afrinic.net <mailto:board at afrinic.net>>

>

>

> Dear Ms Chnayti,

>

> The Board received a request from you to recall the PDWG

> co-Chairs.  The matter will be on the Board agenda at the meeting

> scheduled for 18 August.

>

> I will inform the PDWG co-Chairs about your request as a matter of

> fairness.

>

> Regards,

> S. Moonesamy

>

> Board Chair, AFRINIC

>

>

>

>

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