[rpd] Last Call - RPKI ROAs for Unallocated and Unassigned AFRINIC Address Space AFPUB-2019-GEN-006-DRAFT03.

[Arnaud AMELINA]

If I recall well we provided you Review Proposal which you fight
energetically.

But it contains all these provisions. But history give us reason.

Regards

--
Arnaud

Le dim. 25 juil. 2021 à 12:38, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via RPD <rpd at afrinic.net>
a écrit :


> Exactly.

>

> There is today an internal procedure for resource reclamation.

>

> The community can either, work with the staff (may be via an specific WG)

> in improving that procedure or even better, make it via a policy proposal.

>

> This way, we can be sure that the de-registration process and all the

> associated "issues" (whois, IRR, ROAs, AS0 ROAs, etc.) follow the patch as

> decided by the community, instead of leaving that in the complete decision

> of AFRINIC.

>

> If we believe that instead of 3 months before cleaning up in case of

> reclamation, should be, for example:

> - 3 months of warning to resolve any issues

> - 3 months, if no resolution, of publication of what resources will be

> recalled

> - 1 month after, removal of reverse DNS

> - 1 month after, removal of whois, etc.

> - 1 months after, publication of those resources in the AS0 ROA.

>

> But all that need to be independent of this proposal, because is affecting

> many other aspects of a reclamation process, it will be making no-sense to

> duplicate it in several places of the CPM.

>

> And there is already some work on that direction:

>

>

> https://www.afrinic.net/policy/proposals/2020-gen-001-d1?lang=en-GB#proposal

>

> We plan, actually, to send a new version *soon*, so inputs on that are

> welcome! Change the subject please!

>

> Regards,

> Jordi

> @jordipalet

>

>

>

> El 24/7/21 18:04, "Nishal Goburdhan" <nishal at controlfreak.co.za>

> escribió:

>

>     On 24 Jul 2021, at 14:48, Ben Maddison via RPD wrote:

>

>     > If you are asking about the process for issuing AS0 ROAs for

> reclaimed

>     > resources (or previously allocated resources in general), I believe

>     > the

>     > only safe answer is "once consent has been given by the previous

>     > holder".

>

>     that’s *a* safe answer, but certainly not the *only* answer.  and

>     rather than point to many cases where this is not the the only safe

>     answer, i’ll point instead to a suggestion that was made earlier :

>     draw up a solid operating practice for when/how this can/should be

>     applied.  part of that operating policy would likely include something

>     like:  “if the claim to the address space is being contested in a

>     court of law, then no changes should be made to IRR/ROAs..”  (that of

>     course, needs to be cleaned up, to be made mode appropriate!)

>

>     and so, in a case like we are seeing unfold, a “no change” to the

>     state of CI’s ROAs / IRR objects should be the process that’s

>     followed, until there’s an answer from the court.  frankly, i’m

>     unsure why anyone would think different about this?  if the court’s

>     eventual ruling is in favour of afrinic, then, regardless of whether,

> or

>     not CI gives their “consent”, afrinic can act to reclaim the space

>     (and follow the relevant associated behaviour).  if the court rules in

>     favour of CI, well,..this discussion is moot ..

>

>     there’s precedent for this;  when we authored the lame delegation

>     policy we wrote an operating guide for what we thought would amount to

> a

>     safe implementation for afrinic to follow.  ben/owen/noah, you’re

>     savvy enough to see the value of AS0 ROAs, and to suggest text for

> edge

>     cases (like this).  why not offer to help afrinic author that part of

>     the operating manual, so that we end up with the best of both worlds?

>     (frankly, i’d see that as a good opportunity to review and comment on

>     their regular reclamation process too, but .. i can’t speak for what

>     afrinic might be willing to entertain)

>

>     -n.

>

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