[rpd] Last Call - RPKI ROAs for Unallocated and Unassigned AFRINIC Address Space AFPUB-2019-GEN-006-DRAFT03.

[Arnaud AMELINA]

If I recall well we provided you Review Proposal which you fight
energetically.

But it contains all these provisions. But history give us reason.

Regards

--
Arnaud

Le dim. 25 juil. 2021 à 12:38, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via RPD <rpd at afrinic.net>
a écrit :

> Exactly.
>
> There is today an internal procedure for resource reclamation.
>
> The community can either, work with the staff (may be via an specific WG)
> in improving that procedure or even better, make it via a policy proposal.
>
> This way, we can be sure that the de-registration process and all the
> associated "issues" (whois, IRR, ROAs, AS0 ROAs, etc.) follow the patch as
> decided by the community, instead of leaving that in the complete decision
> of AFRINIC.
>
> If we believe that instead of 3 months before cleaning up in case of
> reclamation, should be, for example:
> - 3 months of warning to resolve any issues
> - 3 months, if no resolution, of publication of what resources will be
> recalled
> - 1 month after, removal of reverse DNS
> - 1 month after, removal of whois, etc.
> - 1 months after, publication of those resources in the AS0 ROA.
>
> But all that need to be independent of this proposal, because is affecting
> many other aspects of a reclamation process, it will be making no-sense to
> duplicate it in several places of the CPM.
>
> And there is already some work on that direction:
>
>
> https://www.afrinic.net/policy/proposals/2020-gen-001-d1?lang=en-GB#proposal
>
> We plan, actually, to send a new version *soon*, so inputs on that are
> welcome! Change the subject please!
>
> Regards,
> Jordi
> @jordipalet
>
>
>
> El 24/7/21 18:04, "Nishal Goburdhan" <nishal at controlfreak.co.za>
> escribió:
>
>     On 24 Jul 2021, at 14:48, Ben Maddison via RPD wrote:
>
>     > If you are asking about the process for issuing AS0 ROAs for
> reclaimed
>     > resources (or previously allocated resources in general), I believe
>     > the
>     > only safe answer is "once consent has been given by the previous
>     > holder".
>
>     that’s *a* safe answer, but certainly not the *only* answer.  and
>     rather than point to many cases where this is not the the only safe
>     answer, i’ll point instead to a suggestion that was made earlier :
>     draw up a solid operating practice for when/how this can/should be
>     applied.  part of that operating policy would likely include something
>     like:  “if the claim to the address space is being contested in a
>     court of law, then no changes should be made to IRR/ROAs..”  (that of
>     course, needs to be cleaned up, to be made mode appropriate!)
>
>     and so, in a case like we are seeing unfold, a “no change” to the
>     state of CI’s ROAs / IRR objects should be the process that’s
>     followed, until there’s an answer from the court.  frankly, i’m
>     unsure why anyone would think different about this?  if the court’s
>     eventual ruling is in favour of afrinic, then, regardless of whether,
> or
>     not CI gives their “consent”, afrinic can act to reclaim the space
>     (and follow the relevant associated behaviour).  if the court rules in
>     favour of CI, well,..this discussion is moot ..
>
>     there’s precedent for this;  when we authored the lame delegation
>     policy we wrote an operating guide for what we thought would amount to
> a
>     safe implementation for afrinic to follow.  ben/owen/noah, you’re
>     savvy enough to see the value of AS0 ROAs, and to suggest text for
> edge
>     cases (like this).  why not offer to help afrinic author that part of
>     the operating manual, so that we end up with the best of both worlds?
>     (frankly, i’d see that as a good opportunity to review and comment on
>     their regular reclamation process too, but .. i can’t speak for what
>     afrinic might be willing to entertain)
>
>     -n.
>
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