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[rpd] Last Call - RPKI ROAs for Unallocated and Unassigned AFRINIC Address Space AFPUB-2019-GEN-006-DRAFT03.

Noah noah at
Tue Jun 15 15:27:21 UTC 2021

Hi Job,

On Mon, Jun 14, 2021 at 2:12 PM Job Snijders <job at> wrote:

> On Sat, Jun 12, 2021 at 09:01:03PM +0300, Noah wrote:

> > While this was resolved within 10mins, were there measures put in place

> by

> > the NCC as mitigation process to curb a repeat of the incident?


> This problem lasted more than 70 minutes!


> The point I am trying to make: once an RIR automatically creates AS0

> ROAs for unallocated/unassigned space, any database incidents where the

> registration status of a resource accidentally (and temporarily) lapses,

> can result in blocklisting via AS0.


> The risk of things going wrong at a future point in time versus the

> perceived benefits of such ROAs don't align well.


> The best measure to put in place to curb incidents is to not implement

> this type of policy.


There are several of us who support this policy for valid reasons, some of
which are founded on the premise [1] that you shared with the APNIC region
back in 2019.


And if you look at the bogons [2] currently seen in the global routing
table, one can easily find the prefixes from AFRINIC pool, some being
advertised by unassigned ASNs.


It is unfortunate that the problem statement of the proposal is not well
defined to allow a better understanding of the problem being addressed and the
assessment of the benefits vs risks.

Yes.....Things can go wrong at many layers and at different levels,
however, the entitled parties shall play their role and we all learn from
incidents and keep improving.

The issuance of AS0 ROAs should follow the conservative approach RIRs use
in managing changes in number ressources status, the addition of INRs to
bogon list, subject to AS0 ROAs.

In my humble opinion.


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