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[rpd] Last Call - RPKI ROAs for Unallocated and Unassigned AFRINIC Address Space AFPUB-2019-GEN-006-DRAFT03.

Daniel Yakmut yakmutd at googlemail.com
Fri Jun 11 21:57:40 UTC 2021


+1 to Mark's

On 11/06/2021 5:49 pm, Mark Tinka wrote:
> Hi all.
>
> TL;DR - I do not support this policy proposal.
>
> The purpose of this proposal is to give operators another method to 
> identify routes they should either ignore or filter from their routing 
> domain. It is, already, feasible to do this using the data available 
> from the AFRINIC WHOIS database. Implementing this policy does present 
> the potential to introduce some risk in the RPKI system operated by 
> AFRINIC. On the basis that the use of this policy is largely optional, 
> I am not convinced that the additional risk to the AFRINIC 
> infrastructure - and the folk who rely on it - outweighs the benefit.
>
> Getting RPKI out there is already significantly challenging. 
> Personally, I would spend more time and energy on that, before we try 
> to complicate it with a policy proposal such as this.
>
> I am less-than-interested in what the other RIR's have decided to do 
> or not to do with similar policy proposals within their regions. 
> Speaking purely with an African bias, I do not see how this proposal 
> moves the RPKI needle forward in a meaningful and impactful way. For 
> me, it's a nice-to-have, for which solutions that are well-documented 
> are already in sufficient existence. I'd prefer that we did not 
> encourage thought processes that could turn RPKI into a loaded gun 
> that may very well lead to unintended consequences.
>
> Suggest we focus our efforts on actually getting RPKI more widely 
> deployed. A case of "crawl before we can run", type-thing.
>
> I tend to prefer achieving the objective with the least amount of 
> effort. If it were up to me, the only command a router would ever need 
> is "on", but alas! Pushing multiple TAL's from a single RIR will only 
> escalate the confusion surface area, which is more than likely to have 
> a negative impact on the progression of deployment of a global RPKI, 
> or worse, mis-deployment that may be touted as a BCP for generations 
> to come.
>
> A policy such as this could set a precedent for significantly more 
> (well-intentioned, but) disastrous use-cases for the RPKI. I'd err on 
> the side of avoiding situations where centralized control of 
> gratuitous blackouts of part or all of the Internet, on purpose or by 
> mistake, are not given roots to emerge. Keeping the genie in the 
> bottle is, for me, far better than thinking you can cage it once it 
> has been set free.
>
> AS0 is unlikely to help me stop paying the annual subscription for my 
> anti-spam and anti-virus system. If there is some other practical 
> problem - for which a solution currently does not exist - that this 
> policy proposal is looking to fix, I'd be most obliged to hear it. Thanks.
>
> Mark.
>
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