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[rpd] PDWG Co-Chairs Selection pursuant to Section 3.3 of CPM |

Noah noah at
Wed Apr 7 17:20:25 UTC 2021

On Wed, Apr 7, 2021 at 7:48 PM JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via RPD <rpd at>

> I need to disagree with you here.


Both proposals reached consensus. That’s a fact.


No Jordi the *Resource Transfer Policy* with all its multiple versions,
v.1 v.2, v.3 and I believe v.4 did not reach consensus due to lack of
following the process.

I know you are obsessed with wanting to see an IPv4 Inter-RIR transfer
policy in place within our AFRINIC service region but that has to only
happen through a clear PDP process and with all valid objections addressed
including the serious financial implication that AFRINIC staff indicated
when tasks by its resource members not withstanding staff impact analysis.


> One of them is pending on an appeal, so the board need to wait for that to

> be resolved.


Yes and that is part of the process and the appeals state clearly why that
specific proposal never achieved consensus and why it should be taken back
to the WG for further discussion.


> In any case, the board could return both proposals to the PDWG, if they

> have **strong** reasons to object to the ratification.


They could even decide that they ratify the proposal but also take a

> “contrary” proposal, which will take immediate effect, to be endorsed by

> the community in the next meeting, which can leave without effect the

> ratification.


I would not support such a rushed move by the AFRINIC board. If a proposal
has issues, it's the role of the WG to fine tune it until the WG agrees
that yes, now we have a proposal that the co-chairs can send to the board
for consideration like we have done with so many proposals in the past.

Therefore, your piecemeal approach is very dangerous and we have taken some
lessons from past mistakes as a WG that we can not afford to rush
with piecemeal proposals just because folks can come back and fine tune the
said policy. Why not the WG resolve all issues with the proposal before it
can be sent for ratification.

FWIW, Inter-RIR transfer proposals especially for our region ought to be
treated with caution in light of all the fraud and we shall not blindly
rush things here Jordi.

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