[rpd] PDWG Co-Chairs Selection pursuant to Section 3.3 of CPM |

[Noah]

Hi Jordi/AK

You are talking too much.
Abdulkarim is also talking.
Afrinic also talked and said no such email has ever been sent, not even
their logs show it.

How about we cut to the case, with real evidence from the sender to the
recipient even though it matters that one of the proposals is still under
appeal.

*./noah*
neo - network engineering and operations


On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 4:29 PM JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via RPD <rpd at afrinic.net>
wrote:


> Hi AK,

>

>

>

> Tks a lot for your confirmation, we really needed it.

>

>

>

> I fully understand that the board could tell that this could not be done

> for the “immediate next” board meeting. The PDP doesn’t state nothing about

> that, however, the document should be kept by the board for the next

> meeting after that one. I think that’s a very rational way to handle it.

>

>

>

> It will be good anyway, that you provide to the community a copy of all

> the email exchanges. Those messages belong to the community, nothing

> private there.

>

>

>

> I think it is clear now that the board didn’t tell the true to the

> community. It is a clear and severe breach. I don’t really understand why

> this is being done by the board, same as nobody understood the suspension

> of the AC, and many other facts related to the PDP.

>

>

>

> I never believed there is a plot, but I’m starting to change my mind. I

> hope the board can provide clarifications and demonstrate all the facts.

>

>

>

> I’m not sure now also to understand how the staff said they couldn’t find

> anything on this and how Eddy confirmed that they never got the

> ratification request.

>

>

>

> Really sad situation. Yes, the board is a membership thing, but it has

> serious implications in terms of the PDP and thus, the overall community.

>

>

>

> Regards,

>

> Jordi

>

> @jordipalet

>

>

>

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>

>

> El 6/4/21 14:50, "ABDULKARIM OLOYEDE" <oloyede.aa at unilorin.edu.ng>

> escribió:

>

>

>

> Dear Jordi and all

>

> I was previously on sabbatical leave for personal reasons.

>

> I want to confirm to you and the community once again that the document

> for ratification was prepared and sent to the board. However, after sending

> it we were informed that it would not be considered by the board at that

> time because it was done few days before the Board meeting and subsequently

> we were also informed of other reasons and the letter written to us by the

> legal adviser. We agreed at that time that we should seek the consent of

> the community before re-representing the document after expressing our

> surprise with the new timeline more especially after working tirelessly on

> the ratification document.

>

> I want to also confirm that we have in the past sent documents for

> ratification to the board a few days before its meeting and it was

> considered hence we were at that time surprised about the new timelines.

>

>

>

> I hope this clarifies this issue.

>

> Thanks

>

>

>

> AK

>

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>

>

>

>

> On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 12:02 PM JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via RPD <

> rpd at afrinic.net> wrote:

>

> I only want to know the complete true.

>

>

>

> If the ratification was asked, even if “incomplete” we should know. What I

> can’t accept is ignoring who is not saying the complete true. Any degree of

> distrust is a complete failure of AFRINIC and the community.

>

>

>

> Regards,

>

> Jordi

>

> @jordipalet

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> El 6/4/21 12:53, "Daniel Yakmut" <yakmutd at googlemail.com> escribió:

>

>

>

> Dear Jordi.

>

> Is this a standard practice or is it an attempt by you to arm twist AK and

> the board?

>

> But I agree that if there is no reason that is injurious, then the email

> exchanges should be released.

>

> Simply,

>

> Daniel

>

> On 06/04/2021 11:18 am, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via RPD wrote:

>

> Hi,

>

>

>

> I understand that, however, I can’t trust it, very unfortunately.

>

>

>

> The chairs said they sent it. AK told it also to me in private email, and

> having seen the last actions from the board, I’ve more reasons to trust AK

> than AFRINIC.

>

>

>

> Either AK is right or is not. If AK is right, he should demonstrate it,

> very simple. There is nothing secret in emails exchanged with the staff or

> board. We know other chairs always copied the list; nothing should be

> different this time.

>

>

>

> If AK can’t demonstrate it, then how we can trust him as a co-chair?

> Believe me, I will prefer to have the emails demonstrating who is not

> telling the complete true here.

>

>

>

> Regards,

>

> Jordi

>

> @jordipalet

>

>

>

>

>

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>

> El 5/4/21 18:38, "AFRINIC Policy Liaison" <policy-liaison at afrinic.net>

> escribió:

>

>

>

> Dear Jordi,

>

> This question has been raised for quite some time and our team has checked

> and double-checked even in the logs and found no evidence. However, if the

> date and time as well as other details about the emails are shared, the

> technical team will check again and clear this situation.

>

> Regards

>

> Policy Liaison Team

>

> On 05/04/2021 12:50 AM, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via RPD wrote:

>

> However, one thing that worries me is if we should trust our previous co-chair or the board and I'm referring here to the fact that AK has told the community that the policies that reached consensus were sent to the board for ratification and the board and the CEO denied that. All the communication from the co-chairs and the board regarding that has never been disclosed, without any explanation about that, even if should have been done copy to the list, for a pure transparency reason.

>

>

>

> So, please, AK, if you really think that you did right and you can do a new term without those errors and, consequently, we can trust you, this is your perfect opportunity to clarify all that by copying all those emails to the list.

>

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