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[rpd] Eligibility Criteria for PDWG chairs
Owen DeLong
owen at delong.com
Mon Mar 29 02:38:48 UTC 2021
> On Mar 27, 2021, at 1:04 AM, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via RPD <rpd at afrinic.net> wrote:
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> HI Owen,
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> Agree with your inputs on C and D. Regarding the co-chairs training, I know it has been for previous co-chairs, so I expect the same for new ones.
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> Now, the difficult part. While I agree that there is already a criterion in 3.3, the Board already “set policy” on this previously via a NomCom for many years. This is, in my opinion, in violation of the PDP and the bylaws, because the Board *NEVER* followed the bylaws in asking the endorsement of that via the PDP (which is the only acceptable way to ask for endorsement).
Past violations do not excuse new ones. The NomCom has not, to the best of my knowledge vetted candidates for PDWG co-chairs, at least not at the vast majority of meetings where I’ve been present for the co-chair election.
If the board tampered with the process in the past, they should stop doing that. We certainly shouldn’t be inventing new violations and then executing on them. We should, instead, return to the existing policy until it is legitimately changed.
> This is “apart” from the fact that the bylaws only talk about the Board doing policies for Number Resources, not to modify the PDP itself.
Also a fair point. IIRC, I’ve never supported the board modifying the PDP ad hoc.
> However, in fact of the actual situation, making sure that we can progress, and considering the previous precedents, I think this time the Board can do a proper usage of the bylaws, and set the Criteria and then ask for the endorsement in the next meeting. Even if it is not endorsed, the decision will be still valid according to the bylaws.
I disagree. I think the board should follow the existing criteria, nominations should be wide open to any member of the WG to nominate any member of the WG to serve during the nomination period and all nominees who do not decline their nomination should be placed on the ballot.
> By the way, there is already a policy proposal for elections, will be easy to ensure that the criteria that we adopt is embedded in that proposal for further discussion once we have chairs in place.
Separate issue and as you note, one for a later time.
Owen
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> Regards,
> Jordi
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> El 27/3/21 0:05, "Owen DeLong via RPD" <rpd at afrinic.net <mailto:rpd at afrinic.net>> escribió:
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> These are all fine criteria for the voters to consider in their decision, but they cannot be held out as candidate eligibility criteria at this time.
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> For better or worse, the eligibility criteria that must be followed are already specified in the PDP as contained in the CPM:
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> For everyone’s convenience, I quote section 3.3 of the CPM here:
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>> 3.3 The Policy Development Working Group (PDWG)
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>> The Policy Development Working Group (PDWG) discusses the proposals. Anyone may participate via the Internet or in person. PDWG work is carried out through the Resource Policy Discussion mailing list (rpd at afrinic.net <mailto:rpd at afrinic.net>) and the bi-annual AFRINIC Public Policy Meetings (PPM). Any person, participating either in person or remotely, is considered to be part of the Policy Development Working Group.
>> The Policy Development Working Group has two Chairs to perform its administrative functions. The PDWG Chairs are chosen by the AFRINIC community during the Public Policy Meeting and serve staggered two-year terms. The term ends during the first Public Policy Meeting corresponding to the end of the term for which they were appointed. A term may begin or end no sooner than the first day of the Public Policy Meeting and no later than the last day of the Public Policy Meeting as determined by the mutual agreement of the current Chair and the new Chair.
>> If the Working Group Chair is unable to serve his or her full term, the Working Group may select a replacement to serve the remainder of the term. If the Working Group Chairs are unable to attend the Public Policy Meeting, the Working Group shall nominate a Chair for the session. Anyone present at the meeting, whether in person or by remote participation, may participate in the selection process for a temporary Chair.
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> Therefore any participant in the PDWG who is interested in running is eligible to run and it is up to the members of the community to
> evaluate their qualifications.
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> I would have no problem whatsoever supporting a policy proposal to adopt the below proposed eligibility criteria as an amendment to section 3.3 in the future, but it is improper to impose them at this time on an ad hoc basis. They must go through the PDP and be properly adopted.
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> I will further note some suggested minor improvements as follows:
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> I suggest that C require at least 1 year of experience specific to AFRINIC as well as 3 years total RIR policy experience.
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> I suggest that D rather than allowing any 2 AFRINIC events to qualify, the requirement should be specific to PDWG Meetings. If we consider this to be a useful requirement, then I think it should be specific to the PDWG rather than allowing someone who attended a couple of IPv6 classes (for example) to be considered sufficient participation.
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> I would also like to encourage AFRINIC to provide the co-chairs with professional training on moderating meetings both virtual and in-person as this is a skill not widely held by the majority of community members who may otherwise be qualified for the position. I think the entire community and especially the victims^wvolunteers who we elect to do so would benefit from such training enabling them to do a better job.
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> Owen
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>> On Mar 26, 2021, at 10:19 AM, Madhvi Gokool <madhvi at afrinic.net <mailto:madhvi at afrinic.net>> wrote:
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>> Dear PDWG,
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>> I submit to you the below proposed eligibility criteria which are based upon the previous discussions on the rpd mailing list.
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>> We encourage you to follow the following guidelines to facilitate the compilation of your feedback:-
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>> 1. Please read and thoroughly review the list of eligibility criteria.
>> 2. Please reply back to this email to keep the same thread of the discussion to ensure that your feedback is read.
>> 3. If there are any criteria that you either support or do not support, please clearly refer to it and provide concise feedback (refer to the numbering in the list below).
>> 4. If there are new criteria that you would like to propose, please clearly mention it concisely and add a new numbering.
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>> Proposed Eligibility Criteria
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>> A. The intended volunteer must be well conversant with AFRINIC’s consensus-driven ecosystem, including its Policy Development Process; A practical understanding of RFC 7282 is required.
>> B. The intended volunteer must be accessible and make himself or herself available to follow and moderate all policy proposal discussions on AFRINIC’s rpd mailing list as well as attending AFRINIC Public Policy Meetings whenever they are held (Note: All logistical assistance will be provided by AFRINIC);
>> C. The intended volunteer must have at least 3 years of sufficient past and active participative experience on either AFRINIC’s or any other RIR’s rpd mailing list;
>> D. The Intended volunteer must have participated in at least two (2) AFRINIC events (face-to-face or virtual) in the past three (3) years;
>> E. The intended volunteer must have sufficient capability of understanding and interpreting the contents of AFRINIC’s Consolidated Policy Manual;
>> F. The intended volunteer must be able to demonstrate good technical knowledge and understanding of the Internet ecosystem. Having 3 years of related technical experience would be an advantage
>> G. Not being author of any of the policy proposals currently under discussion.
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>> The following are proposals not in the discussion threads :
>> H)The intended volunteer must either reside within or originate from AFRINIC’s service region;
>> I) The intended volunteer must be able to demonstrate excellent presentation and communication skills.
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>> We look forward to receiving your comments and feedback.
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>> ……………………………………………………………..
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>> Cher PDWG,
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>> Je vous communique les critères d'éligibilité proposés ci-dessous, qui sont basés sur les discussions précédentes sur la liste de diffusion rpd.
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>> Nous vous encourageons à suivre les directives suivantes afin de faciliter la compilation de vos commentaires :-
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>> 1. Veuillez lire et examiner attentivement la liste des critères d'éligibilité.
>> 2. Veuillez répondre à ce courriel afin de conserver le même fil de discussion et de vous assurer que vos commentaires sont lus.
>> 3. S'il y a des critères que vous soutenez ou non, veuillez y faire clairement référence et fournir un retour d'information concis (veuillez vous référer à la numérotation dans la liste ci-dessous).
>> 4. S'il y a de nouveaux critères que vous souhaitez proposer, veuillez le mentionner clairement et de manière concise et ajouter une nouvelle numérotation.
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>> Critères d'éligibilité proposés
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>> A. Le volontaire concerné doit bien connaître l'écosystème consensuel d'AFRINIC, y compris son processus d'élaboration des politiques. Une compréhension pratique du RFC 7282 est requise.
>> B. Le volontaire concerné doit être accessible et se rendre disponible pour suivre et modérer toutes les discussions sur les propositions de politique sur la liste de diffusion rpd d'AFRINIC, ainsi que pour assister aux réunions de politique publique d'AFRINIC lorsqu'elles ont lieu (Note : Toute l'assistance logistique sera fournie par AFRINIC) ;
>> C. Le volontaire concerné doit avoir au moins 3 ans d'expérience suffisante et active de participation à la liste de diffusion rpd de l'AFRINIC ou de tout autre RIR ;
>> D. Le volontaire concerné doit avoir participé à au moins deux (2) événements AFRINIC (face à face ou virtuels) au cours des trois (3) dernières années ;
>> E. Le volontaire concerné doit avoir une capacité suffisante de compréhension et d'interprétation du contenu du Consolidated Policy Manual d'AFRINIC ;
>> F. Le volontaire concerné doit être capable de démontrer une bonne connaissance technique et une bonne compréhension de l'écosystème Internet. Une expérience technique de 3 ans dans ce domaine serait un avantage.
>> G. Ne doit pas être l'auteur de l'une des propositions de politique actuellement en discussion.
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>> Les propositions suivantes ne figurent pas dans les fils de discussion :
>> H. Le volontaire concerné doit soit résider ou soit en être originaire de la région de service d'AFRINIC, ;
>> I. Le volontaire doit être capable de démontrer d'excellentes capacités de présentation et de communication.
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>> Nous nous attendons à recevoir vos commentaires et feedbacks.
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>> Regards
>> Madhvi
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>> Madhvi Gokool
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