[rpd] Report from Recall Committee

[Arnaud AMELINA]

Le lun. 22 févr. 2021 à 23:03, Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com> a écrit :


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> On Feb 19, 2021, at 16:21 , Arnaud AMELINA <amelnaud at gmail.com> wrote:

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>> *Silent your opposition? Never, but as said above, you are just one voice

>> which counts like others, and you should allow and encourage others,

>> especially those who live or are operating in this region to also speak and

>> live with the outcome.*

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>> While I don’t live in the region, I do have involvement in operations in

>> the region, so your above statement is yet another example of how you’ve

>> gotten it wrong about me.

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> Why are you  personalizing this? And again missing important points made.

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> You made it personal… “You should allow…others…especially those who live

> or are operating in this region…”

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> I reacted directly. You have repeatedly engaged in ad hominem attacks on

> me and on my participation here.

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> You left out my important points from that message in your quote as well.

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> While The PDP and its  discussions on rpd and at meetings are open to all

> interested parties , There are things like appointing cochairs  or being

> cochairs  which have always been reserved for people living in the regions

> or operating  in the region. Operating in the region is demonstrated by

> being a PoC of Afrinic member.

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> Being chair is reserved for people living in the region. Appointing them

> is specifically open to everyone in attendance at the applicable PDWG

> meeting.

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> Operating in the region cannot possibly be limited to being a PoC of an

> AFRINIC member. It’s an absurd misclassification. Are you claiming that the

> peering coordinator for an ISP who is not their IP administrator and

> therefore not on the POC list would not be someone considered to be

> operating in the region? That is absurd.

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Security officers, NOC engineers and we can keep the list on going...

would any of these have allowed me to vote for ARIN AC, if I am not  listed
as a PoC of an ARIN member?

This is how it is defined here and you may want to pursue its amendment.

Those who are residing in the region  can show it. The non-resident who
claims to be operating in the AFRINIC  service region should show it by
being a registered and authorized contact of an AFRINIC resource member in
good standing

AFRINIC is still a Regional Internet Registry



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> If you qualify there is no endless discussions to have. Let the system

> operate.

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> Well, I do not qualify by your proposed criteria, but then neither do more

> than half of the people operating networks in the region.

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> You continue to seek ways in which you can legitimize your efforts to

> reduce or eliminate my participation in the process, and you continue to

> fail.

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Nobody can reduce or eliminate your participation in the Policy development
process as it is open to anyone interested to participate...



> If you don’t wish to continue this “endless discussion”, then all you need

> to do is admit that my participation is legitimate and stop acting like I

> should be some second-class presence in the community.

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Whatever you call it does not really matter...

there are always limitations to all of us when it come to  things
restricted to a particular region, group, etc...

While we can participate and be heard in any RIR  activities...restrictions
do apply.
Nothing new  or special.



> Owen

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Arnaud
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