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[rpd] Selecting WG Co-Chairs: Was Re: Can a Consensual Decision of the PDWG Violate the PDP? (was: Report from Recall Committee)

JORDI PALET MARTINEZ jordi.palet at consulintel.es
Fri Feb 19 09:04:28 UTC 2021


By the way, I think it is obvious that Noah should be part of it as well …



Regards,

Jordi

@jordipalet







El 19/2/21 10:00, "JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via RPD" <rpd at afrinic.net> escribió:



Hi Sylvain,



Sunday knows me very well and I’m sure he knows that I’m happy to work not just with him, but with *anyone* always (even with people that disagree with my proposals! Is not that surprising?).



Sunday actually “rescued” me during a weekend from the “deportation” from Lagos that I suffered in the early years of AFRINIC when I was helping with the first IPv6 trainings. Note that I did nothing wrong, just the people in the consulate, wanted a brive and I fall into the trap! So we have a long history behind!



Regards,

Jordi

@jordipalet







El 19/2/21 9:50, "Sylvain Baya" <abscoco at gmail.com> escribió:



Dear PDWG,

Le ven. 19 févr. 2021 06:29, Noah <noah at neo.co.tz> a écrit :



On Fri, 19 Feb 2021, 01:56 Sylvain Baya, <abscoco at gmail.com> wrote:

Dear PDWG,



Hi Sylvain



Hi Noah,



Thanks for your email, brother.



...just a precision to the PDWG: it's still Sunday

who is checking the Rough Consensus on these selection matters :-)



Maybe Jordi, who discarded my proposition

to become a replacement/interim PDWG Chair,

want to work with Sunday :-/



...any other volunteer? (we can have more than

two, if we want)







....a remaining question:

Which model of *selection* y'all prefer?



~°~

• a selection based on an election (online) as usual [1];

• a selection through rough consensus [2];

• a selection based on ranking voting [3];

• a selection inside a group of selectees based on criteria [4];

• any other possibility?



Since the working group functions by participation, a selection by rough consensus would come in handy after all, the PDWG activities end goal is to accomplish work by finding a path to consensus so [2] should be considered as first option by the WG.



A selection based on ranking voting would be the second best choice imho so [3] should be considered as second choice by the WG imho.



Thank you for sharing your choices.



...i failed to number the bullets :'-(



then the choices become as below:



~°~

•1| a selection based on an election (online) as usual [1];

•2| a selection through rough consensus [2];

•3| a selection based on ranking voting [3];

•4| a selection inside a group of selectees based on criteria [4];

•5| any other possibility?

~°~





NOTE: Before we even think of the above, can we as a WG agree on a set of criteria for one to become a chair. This I believe is more important and I have some few ideas like;



Many thanks for the proposed criteria.





1. Active participation in WG discussions, in say, the past 3 years.



...i amend Criterion#1 as follow: ...in at least one year during the past three years.





2. Demonstrate clear understanding of the CPM and especially sections that relate to PDWG.



...i second Criterion#2!





3. Some 5 years sound technical experience in this space with a clear understanding of Internet Protocol and preferably having worked in this space.



I amend Criterion#3 in proposing to add this: ...could be an advantage.





4. Affiliation with an entity which is am AFRINIC resource members could come in handy.



...Criterion#4 second!





5. Understanding of rfc7282 and what rough consensus and consensus is all about, after all consensus is a path and not a destination.



Brother, i don't get Criterion#5 very well. Please can you simplify/clarify the proposed text?



...i would have said it this way:



Criterion#5. Understanding of how Rough

Consensus achievement can be checking/

verifying/conducting; in comformance with

RFC7282.





Other participants in this WG can also add and we see what criteria are more required and which ones to discard to keep it simple.



Criterion#6. ...coming soon maybe ; -)





I stand to be corrected but I think we as a WG have an obligation to first sort this requirements out before we can think of the selection of interim co-chairs.



...you are right! it has been left TBD (To Be Defined)

on my previous email.



Thanks & Blessed friday!



Shalom,

--sb.





Cheers,

Noah





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