[rpd] Selecting WG Co-Chairs: Was Re: Can a Consensual Decision of the PDWG Violate the PDP? (was: Report from Recall Committee)

[JORDI PALET MARTINEZ]

By the way, I think it is obvious that Noah should be part of it as well …

 

Regards,

Jordi

@jordipalet

 

 

 

El 19/2/21 10:00, "JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via RPD" <rpd at afrinic.net> escribió:

 

Hi Sylvain,

 

Sunday knows me very well and I’m sure he knows that I’m happy to work not just with him, but with *anyone* always (even with people that disagree with my proposals! Is not that surprising?).

 

Sunday actually “rescued” me during a weekend from the “deportation” from Lagos that I suffered in the early years of AFRINIC when I was helping with the first IPv6 trainings. Note that I did nothing wrong, just the people in the consulate, wanted a brive and I fall into the trap! So we have a long history behind!

 

Regards,

Jordi

@jordipalet

 

 

 

El 19/2/21 9:50, "Sylvain Baya" <abscoco at gmail.com> escribió:

 

Dear PDWG,

Le ven. 19 févr. 2021 06:29, Noah <noah at neo.co.tz> a écrit :

 

On Fri, 19 Feb 2021, 01:56 Sylvain Baya, <abscoco at gmail.com> wrote:

Dear PDWG,

 

Hi  Sylvain

 

Hi Noah,

 

Thanks for your email, brother. 

 

...just a precision to the PDWG: it's still Sunday 

who is checking the Rough Consensus on these selection matters :-)

 

Maybe Jordi, who discarded my proposition 

to become a replacement/interim PDWG Chair, 

want to work with Sunday :-/

 

...any other volunteer? (we can have more than 

two, if we want)

 

 

 

....a remaining question: 

Which model of *selection* y'all prefer?

 

~°~

• a selection based on an election (online) as usual [1];

• a selection through rough consensus [2];

• a selection based on ranking voting [3];

• a selection inside a group of selectees based on criteria [4];

• any other possibility?

 

Since the working group functions by participation, a selection by rough consensus would come in handy after all, the PDWG activities end goal is to accomplish work by finding a path to consensus so [2] should be considered as first option by the WG.

 

A selection based on ranking voting would be the second best choice imho so [3]  should be considered as second choice by the WG imho.

 

Thank you for sharing your choices.

 

...i failed to number the bullets :'-(

 

then the choices become as below:

 

~°~

•1| a selection based on an election (online) as usual [1];

•2| a selection through rough consensus [2];

•3| a selection based on ranking voting [3];

•4| a selection inside a group of selectees based on criteria [4];

•5| any other possibility? 

~°~

 

 

NOTE: Before we even think of the above,  can we as a WG agree on a set of criteria for one to become a chair. This I believe is more important and I have some few ideas like;

 

Many thanks for the proposed criteria.

 

 

1. Active participation in WG discussions, in say, the past 3 years.

 

...i amend Criterion#1 as follow: ...in at least one year during the past three years.

 

 

2. Demonstrate clear understanding of the CPM and especially sections that relate to PDWG.

 

...i second Criterion#2!

 

 

3. Some 5 years sound technical experience in this space with a clear understanding of Internet Protocol and preferably having worked in this space.

 

I amend Criterion#3 in proposing to add this: ...could be an advantage.

 

 

4. Affiliation with an entity which is am AFRINIC resource members could come in handy. 

 

...Criterion#4 second!

 

 

5. Understanding of rfc7282 and what rough consensus and consensus is all about, after all consensus is a path and not a destination.

 

Brother, i don't get Criterion#5 very well. Please can you simplify/clarify the proposed text? 

 

...i would have said it this way: 

 

Criterion#5. Understanding of how Rough 

Consensus achievement can be checking/

verifying/conducting; in comformance with 

RFC7282.

 

 

Other participants in this WG can also add and we see what criteria are more required and which ones to discard to keep it simple.

 

Criterion#6. ...coming soon maybe ; -)

 

 

I stand to be corrected but I think we as a WG have an obligation to first sort this requirements out before we can think of the selection of interim co-chairs.

 

...you are right! it has been left TBD (To Be Defined) 

on my previous email.

 

Thanks & Blessed friday!

 

Shalom,

--sb.

 

 

Cheers,

Noah

 

 

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