[rpd] WE NEED YOUR INPUT, MAXIMUM BY TUESDAY 16TH NOON: Decision of way forward for new (transition or elected) co-chairs

[JORDI PALET MARTINEZ]

Hi Jaco,

At this stage I'm not going to provide inputs in anyone choices.

However, there are some points that we need to clarify:

1) Electronic voting should be done based in the already pre-existing census that was already arranged by the staff *before* the previous elections. At this way even if some puppets registered afterwards to manipulate elections, they will not count. This is what the board already decided for the previous elections, and considering that it has been only a few months ago, I think it makes more sense considering the situation where we are sitting on.

2) The people allowed to vote is NOT ONLY the membership. This is very clear in the PDP (and bylaws). The co-chairs are elected by the community (PDWG).

3) I think the board chair said they want to take a decision about "the way forward" (https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/2021/012286.html). I believe whatever is the decision, it is clear that we can't expect that it is 100% resolved by next week, that's why I suggested NOT thinking now in further steps, nominating people, etc., etc. because that will drive the discussion to so many possible choices that it will make the consensus impossible. If instead, we decide among 1 of the 4 choices, we will "reduce" the scope of the next step and consequently, reduce the debate. I really hope we can work that way.

Regards,
Jordi
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El 11/2/21 10:29, "Jaco Kroon" <jaco at uls.co.za> escribió:

    Hi Jordi,

    Thank you for your drive on this.

    On 2021/02/11 10:45, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via RPD wrote:
    > Hi all,
    >
    > Following the previous email, we have 4 choices for selecting the new co-chairs:
    >
    > 1. Halt everything regarding PDP decisions, until the board can organize on-line elections in a few weeks (with the previous electoral census).
    >
    > 2. Halt everything regarding PDP decisions, until the board can organize an in-person meeting and then we can have on-site elections (we don't know when we will have a new in-person meeting).
    Either option here is OK by me, I'd recommend for the sake of time till
    ELECTED chairs if possible to go for option 1.  The downside of that is
    as Mark Elkins has pointed out bogus accounts.  Thus in long term (but
    don't think it's an option now) that voting be restricted to some form
    of validated accounts (ie, that Porky What'sHisName gets filtered out). 
    In-person this problem is less so because you can't exactly raise your
    ghost hand.  And there is controversy about new subscriptions (and
    specifically the subscription spike). As such:

    Pros for (1) / Cons against (2):
        - quicker turn around for (1)
        - we don't know when feasible we would be able to arrange for (2)

    Cons against (1) / Pros for (2)
        - Easier to generate bogus votes for (1).

    One way to sort out one may be to use a video conf tool whereby the
    meeting chair can see everybody and thus validate that each participant
    is at least a human being.  Or we could restrict to valid AfriNIC paid
    up members's email accounts.  Each of those again have pro's and con's
    but outside the scope of this discussion, but just to indicate the
    severity of the con for (1).

    >
    > 3. Ask the board to choose 2 transition co-chairs, so we can have elections in the future (option 2 above).
    > 4. Nominate ourselves a few names for transition co-chairs and let the board to decide among them, once they confirm their willingness to take the job, so we can have elections in the future (option 2 above).

    Unless the elections can happen very soon (week or two) we need to have
    the board elect chairs for us during their meeting on the 17th, ideally
    from a set of nominees (which can also feed into the nomcom for nominees
    for (1) or (2) above).  As SM has indicated, we cannot operate without
    chairs, as such, I don't think we have much of a choice in the matter
    here, but these mandates should be as per CPM until the next elections only.

    4 at least gives community input into the board decision, but if we
    don't have at least two nominees, or those two don't have the required
    background / skills then what should the board do?

    Personally I don't really think that (3) and (4) are two distinct
    options, more like we should try to get recommendations / nominees to
    the board as per 4, and then give the board prerogative to select the
    candidates (even from non-nominees if none of the nominees have the
    required background / skills / suitability, obviously with motivations).

    I sincerely hope this is the kind of input/feedback you're looking for.

    At this stage, I think what I'd like to see is some form of "job
    specification" whereby it can be gauged firstly who would be the people
    with te right background / skills / suitability, as well as any
    eliminating criteria (eg, someone who serves on the board may/should not
    be a chair).

    Kind Regards,
    Jaco

    >
    > Note that each person supporting/objecting one or serveral choices, should briefly detail what are the pros and cons that he/she understands need to be considered. Note that this is a consensus base decision, not a voting, and the objections should be as less subjective as possible and looking for the good of the overall community, not personal or business interests.
    >
    > If you think that option 3 or 4 are the right ones, this is not the time to set any conditions or nominate people. Will need to define specific time frame after the decision is taken. Otherwise, may not be able to reach consensus quickly.
    >
    > REMARK: We need to tell the board our decision, by consensus by next Tuesday (16th February), so only comments received up to Tuesday noon could be considered in the final summary.
    >
    > Regards,
    > Jordi
    > @jordipalet
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