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[rpd] Statement from Legal Counsel

Daniel Yakmut yakmutd at googlemail.com
Wed Dec 16 09:19:53 UTC 2020


I agree. I will not respond to anything personal from Marcus, thanks for
the reminder.

Sorry to other members for my morning dose. I will refocus my energy to the
meaningful discussions going on.

Simply
Daniel


On Dec 16, 2020 10:10 AM, "Sunday Folayan" <sfolayan at skannet.com> wrote:

Daniel and Marcus,

Gentlemen,

Please remove rpd at afrinic.net from your recipients list and continue your
exchanges back-stage. When you have consensus, go ahead and then post in on
rpd.

You two ... Have a great day, and well done for the good cooperative work
you are doing!

Sunday.
On 12/16/20 9:07 AM, Daniel Yakmut via RPD wrote:

Dear Marcus,

I have always understood you shortcomings therefore I wont waste time
arguing back and forth with you. The PDP the Co-Chairs are not following, I
suspect is the one defined by you or else I cannot see the non-compliance.

For the first time you said something reasonable, I agree we cannot
compromise standards and we need to hold each other accountable. However, I
have never seen you doing that, because you rather reduce discussions to
attacks and attempted intimidation as you just did with your last mail.

Simply

Daniel
On 15/12/2020 7:45 pm, Marcus K. G. Adomey wrote:

Hi Daniel

I completely understood you and your confusions and diversions.

Note that nobody is castigating the cochairs. They serve at cochairs as
defined by the PDP.

You have consistently stated the most outrageous things about this
community and pointed fingers to members of this community every time
anyone attempt to caution the cochairs.

The cochairs not once but a number of times have failed to follow the PDP
unless members of the working group constantly reminds them to do so and
when raised you now say hey xyz is castigating cochairs and then level
personal attacks making it all sour.

You need to stop and start accepting that holding each other to the high
standards is perfectly normal and accountability has nothing to do with
your endless personal attacks insinuation and division talking points.



Marcus

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*From:* Daniel Yakmut <yakmutd at googlemail.com> <yakmutd at googlemail.com>
*Sent:* Monday, December 14, 2020 8:07:36 PM
*To:* Marcus K. G. Adomey <madomey at hotmail.com> <madomey at hotmail.com>
*Cc:* rpd >> AfriNIC Resource Policy <rpd at afrinic.net> <rpd at afrinic.net>;
Ashok <ashok at afrinic.net> <ashok at afrinic.net>; Arnaud AMELINA
<amelnaud at gmail.com> <amelnaud at gmail.com>
*Subject:* Re: [rpd] Statement from Legal Counsel

Dear Marcus,
Maybe you didn't understand my position, the mess is the attempt by some
members to continue to lay booby traps everywhere in the PWDG.

Moreso, I have remained consitent, that the Co-chairs should not be
castgated for trying to do their work.

I love archives because they remind me where I have been and where I am
possibly heading.

Simply
Daniel

On Dec 14, 2020 8:49 PM, "Marcus K. G. Adomey" <madomey at hotmail.com> wrote:

Hi Daniel,

Are you discovering the “mess”?

The mess is created and maintained when the PDP is no longer followed and
WG’s powers usurped by people entitled only in an administrative roles.

When people lose confidence in process system or people, you should expect
this kind of vigilance and queries for transparency and accountability.

Knowing where you stand, It is not surprising that you are not concerned
when you saw discussions on policy proposals in that context.

The archives have records and will convey the responsibility of each of us.



Marcus


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*From:* Daniel Yakmut via RPD <rpd at afrinic.net>
*Sent:* Monday, December 14, 2020 10:19:07 AM
*To:* Arnaud AMELINA <amelnaud at gmail.com>; Ashok <ashok at afrinic.net>

*Cc:* rpd >> AfriNIC Resource Policy <rpd at afrinic.net>
*Subject:* Re: [rpd] Statement from Legal Counsel


Dear Arnaud,

Please are these insinuations for real. How could Co-Chairs recommend draft
policies for board approval.

1. Are we saying that AfriNIC Staff and Board are oblivious what is
happening in the RPD that they cannot detect a rogue policy.

2. Some members are literally becoming paranoid.

3. Why are some community members bent in giving a dog a bad name, so that
it can be hanged.

4. I hope the discerning community members can see through shenanigan being
thrown around.

I will say what a mess!!!

Simply

Daniel
On 13/12/2020 11:35 am, Arnaud AMELINA wrote:

Hello, PDWG members

It appears in recent communications from legal counsel that co-chairs have
recommended some draft policies for approval by board.

Why are the recommendations, including the reports prescribed by section
3.4.4, not published on this rpd for the sake of transparency and the
practices in the matter?

Where did the resource transfer proposal version 5.0 come from?

We seem to have abandoned the PDP and its key underlining principles.

Regards

--
Arnaud

Le mer. 9 déc. 2020 à 16:25, Ashok <ashok at afrinic.net> a écrit :

*Dear Community members,*

*I refer to AFRINIC’s Chief Executive Officer’s emails dated 30 November
2020 and 03 December 2020 sent to the PDWG’s Co-Chairs to which I was in
copy thereof. Copies of the said emails are also herewith attached.*

*As AFRINIC’s Legal Counsel I wish first to draw your attention to the
PDWG’s Co-Chairs’ declaration of consensus dated 07 October 2020 in respect
of the policy entitled 'Board's Prerogatives' – AFPUB-2020-GEN-004-DRAFT02-
as well as the policy entitled 'Resource Transfer Policy'
–AFPUB-2019-V4-003-DRAFT04- whereby in the latter case, consensus was
initially declared on 07 October 2020 and which was subsequently reversed
by the Co-Chairs on 17 October 2020.*

*I hold no mandate to interfere in the work of the PDWG and/or its
independence I shall refrain from doing so.*

*Nevertheless, I deem it my duty to tender my advice, for whatever it is
worth and without in any way pressurising, the PDWG, an AFRINIC-related
body to be bound by same.*

*My advice addresses the aforementioned two policy proposals and my
purpose is to ensure that the work of the PDWG thereon as well as its
outcome are both legally in order. I have given anxious consideration to
this matter and also bear in mind that where the acts and doings of the
PDWG are not legally in order, same may have a detrimental effect on the
image and reputation of AFRINIC both as a corporate body and responsible
RIR. *

*In regard to the policy entitled 'Board's Prerogatives', I have taken note
of AFRINIC's Staff Assessment report dated 04 November 2020 -
**https://afrinic.net/policy/proposals/2020-gen-004-d2#impact
<https://afrinic.net/policy/proposals/2020-gen-004-d2#impact>**. *

*You may have noticed that the said report has raised both serious
governance and operational issues as well as areas of uncertainty observed
in the proposed policy which has, up to now, remained unaddressed. *

*Consequently, it is my humble view that the PDWG may in its wisdom
consider to review its own stand in respect of these policy proposals so as
to avoid any form of encroachment, potential or otherwise, onto the Board
of Director’s prerogatives, the foundations of which are grounded in
articles 3.4 and 15 of the AFRINIC’s bylaws. *

*However, should the PDWG maintain its stand in respect of the above, then
the appropriate motion has to be made during an AGMM, pursuant to Article
7.7 of the bylaws to amend articles 3.4, 15(1), 15(2) and 15(3) of the
bylaws thus allowing the powers of the Board of Directors to be subjected
to the directives and guidance of the PDWG.*

*As regard the policy entitled 'Resource Transfer Policy', the PDWG may be
aware that the said policy (i.e. version 4 thereof) is presently the
subject of an appeal before the Appeal Committee and the matter is yet to
be determined. *

*Consequently, the PDWG is hereby informed and advised that it is a matter
of sound and settled legal principle that, pending the outcome of the
Appeal Committee proceedings, it (PDWG) refrains from entertaining any
request emanating from the relevant co-authors of the said policy proposals
for further amending these proposals on the legal principle of pendente
lite. It is also my considered view that any attempt in the meantime by the
latter to submit a newly purported version of their policy proposal will be
inadmissible (non-receivable) in law. *

*To close my submission may I urge the PDWG to give due weight to my
non-binding legal advice and consequently appreciate the real risk of
AFRINIC, in the event that the Appeal proceedings are ignored, having to
ratify and implement two policy proposals, on the same subject matter,
which would lead to an unprecedented conflictual situation. *

*Ashok.B.Radhakissoon.*


*Legal Counsel *






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