[rpd] Community Feedback

[Jaco Kroon]

Hi Ekaterina,

Where's the attack?

We're stating there isn't an emergency and that the normal (current)
process as per (current) CPM should be followed in response to a request
for feedback.

Kind Regards,
Jaco

n 2020/12/02 16:04, Ekaterina Kalugina wrote:

> Dear community,
>
> First of all, I would like to note that it is not fair to attack the
> co-chairs on the decision to invoke the article 3.6 of the CPM. This
> idea is not their initiative, rather it was proposed by a community
> member and all the co-chairs are doing its listening to the concerns
> of the community, as their duties require.
>
> Secondly, the co-chairs are not making any unilateral decisions and
> instead are asking for community feedback on the matter, again, as
> their duties require. But instead of giving the necessary feedback,
> some of the members seem to focus on personally attacking the chairs
> instead. Also, I really doubt that "African dictators" would ask for
> the feedback of the community. Please let us stay rational here.
>
> Thirdly, I fail to see how the proposed policy would benefit the
> co-chairs. All it does is add a few mechanisms that ensure objectivity
> and transparency of the recall process. This policy would ensure that
> the chairs are recalled for a good reason and not because their
> decisions got in the way of some personal agendas.
>
> So let us focus on keeping the process as fair and objective as possible. 
>
> Best wishes, 
> Ekaterina 
>
>
> On Wed, 2 Dec 2020, 14:39 Daniel Yakmut via RPD <rpd at afrinic.net
> <mailto:rpd at afrinic.net>> wrote:
>
>     Good Day to All,
>
>     There are a few sensible responses to settling the dust arising
>     from the recall attempts of the current Co-Chairs and the new
>     proposal to make changes to the CPM on recall procedure. Thank you
>     Egbon Sunday, yours is calming.
>
>     However I will want to say thus:
>
>     1. There wouldn't have been all these back and forth if not that
>     some members of the community feel that their opinions must always
>     be accepted. This is clearly demonstrated by the Authors of the
>     recall document, coming with trumped up charges to secure a Recall.
>
>     2. The appeal for the Author of the Policy on Changes on the
>     provisions of recall to withdraw the proposal is a good call. But,
>     again the Co-authors are duty bound to act on the proposal, if it
>     is not withdrawn. Importantly, there is no urgency on the matter.
>     Either way the changes being advocated cannot possibly be use in
>     the current Recall procedure, the existing provisions will apply.
>     Therefore, we should calm nerves knowing that the Co-Chairs will
>     not sit in judgement on matters that affects them as been
>     insinuated by the usual "suspects".
>
>     3. For me I strongly believe that within us we can resolve all
>     matters, there are still a few good men/women that see things
>     clearly and objectively. If we must add an outsider, we can have
>     one in the Recall committee.
>
>     4. While we await the actions of the Board on the constitution of
>     the Recall committee and the final action of the committee. I will
>     suggest that members should give the Co-Chairs some breathing
>     space, the bashing and harassment is not helping.
>
>
>     Simply,
>
>     Daniel
>
>
>     On 02/12/2020 12:47 pm, Sunday Folayan wrote:
>>
>>     Dear Co-Chairs,
>>
>>     I am still hoping the said proposal will be withdrawn by the
>>     author, or at the least, wait for us to learn from the
>>     implementation of the current recall provisions in the CPM.
>>
>>     Please stick with the laid down process. There is no emergency,
>>     or a reason for one.
>>
>>     Greetings to the two Co-Chairs. Please relax ... uneasy lies the
>>     mouth that eats hot Aloco!
>>
>>     Sunday.
>>
>>     On 12/2/20 5:29 AM, ABDULKARIM OLOYEDE wrote:
>>>     Dear PDWG Members, 
>>>     We want to acknowledge the proposal on Co-Chair Recall process
>>>     and the call for us to invoke section 3.6 of the CPM given the
>>>     lack of clarity of the current section on the recall process. 
>>>     We note that a few have accused of not taking over similar
>>>     discussions in the past and regarded it as gross misconduct.
>>>      We hope the Community would, in the next few days give us a
>>>     clear direction as to which way to go. We hope to feed the
>>>     Community back on our decisions by Saturday 5th December 2020.
>>>     We thank you for your understanding, cooperation and the
>>>     continued trust in us.
>>>     Thanks
>>>     Co-Chairs
>>>     PDWG 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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