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[rpd] Resource Transfer Policy_Text revision
Wijdane Goubi
goubi.wijdane at gmail.com
Wed Nov 4 18:33:30 UTC 2020
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> Dear community,
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> *> This proposal has been very controversial and had a reached 'consensus'
> according to the Co-Chais understanding despite the many protests from many
> people from this group.*
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> This proposal has reached consensus because, again, it was deserved. The
> proposal took enough time to get discussed and it had solved all the
> concerns that were raised by the community.
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> *> After the 'consensus' was declared in the PPM the proposal suffered
> significant changes in the text, some of them as put conditional by the
> Co-Chairs for the consensus, something really odd. To mention one of the
> changes the one that changes legacy resources status from one thing to the
> contrary of that. - These changes made after the PPM were never given
> enough time for the WG to discuss it properly. One of the points that
> changed about the Legacy Status had NEVER been discussed in the several
> months of discussion by the WG.*
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> There was enough time, several months as you said to discuss what raises
> your concerns ,and yet nothing remains unsolved, to the point that would
> make the proposal problematic.
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> *> During the Last-Call there were countless requests for this proposal to
> be put back into discussion again as clearly it never reached consensus*
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> Why would the proposal be put back into discussion after it has reached
> consensus? That’s not how the pdp works. The authors were even
> understanding enough to keep listening to the community’s remarks after the
> consensus was reached, and work by them. We are in no position to keep
> wasting time on a much needed policy.
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> >* After the Last-call the Co-Chais decision about this 'consensus' was
> appealed, twice.*
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> It was appealed for non-valid reasons that you can go back to check in the
> relevant thread.
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> *Co-Chairs made something unprecedented after confirming the consensus
> brought the proposal back to Last-call. - During the first and second
> Last-call periods the proposal received at least 3 new versions, which some
> insist to call "editorial review" but change several and significant parts
> showing the proposal was not ready to progress and is been rush at any cost
> to pass.*
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> If there is any reason for rushing the proposal to pass, it would only be
> to benefit the community which is in this case implementing this proposal.
> As for the changes no statement in the CPM forbids making editorial ones.
> The policy is still the same one, and editorial modifications were needed
> to solve a few misunderstandings and reciprocity issues.
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> > *During the same period staff confirmed some of the RIRs, ARIN in
> specially did NOT have reciprocity to the text that supposedly reached
> consensus.*
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> * - Still with the situation unknown the authors keep presenting new text
> revisions for the proposal confirming once more that the proposal was never
> ready to have any consensus declared and needed further discussion despite
> how much important it can be for the region.*
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> I do not see how taking into consideration the community’s concerns and
> working on them can be looked at as rushing or forcing the proposal and
> considered as “the proposal is not ready to have any consensus”.
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> > *These changes are called "editorial changes" but in fact are just
> newer versions which require time for the WG to discuss properly.*
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> *Facing all this how can a proposal have any consensus declared with all
> this mess ?*
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> There is no mess besides the one that is created by not taking enough time
> to read the new drafts and realize that they do not contain any significant
> changes but rather editorial ones. And that was and is still not forbidden.
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> Cheers,
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> wijdane
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