[rpd] Reciprocity of the inter-RIR transfer policies - IPv4 Inter-RIR Resource Transfers (Comprehensive Scope) - AFPUB-2019-IPv4-002-DRAFT04

[Gaby Giner]

Hello Madhvi, everyone,

Thank you for getting back to us about the compatibility/reciprocity of the
resource transfer proposals.

What I have noticed is that there doesn’t seem to be a problem with the
Resource Transfer Policy if a simple modification is done with the
following sentence:

"The source must be the current rights holder of the IPv4 address resources
registered with any RIR and shall be in compliance with the policies of the
receiving RIR."

Once done, the policy will be compatible with the RIRs and then we can
proceed and not waste any more time to implement it.

Thanks,

Gaby

On Tue, Oct 27, 2020, 5:31 PM JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via RPD, <rpd at afrinic.net>
wrote:


> Hi Madhvi, all,

>

>

>

> My understanding is that the ARIN comment on this proposal

> (AFPUB-2019-IPv4-002-DRAFT04 – To be clear, I’m only talking about this one

> from now on), is only a comment. I don’t really understand it, and I’ve the

> feeling that they missed reading the section title:

>

>

>

> 5.7.2 Conditions *on the source* of the transfer

>

>

>

> This clearly states that that section is for the source of the transfer,

> and ARIN is saying “5.7.2.2 language does not always explicitly state that

> the source entity requirements apply solely to source entities”

>

>

>

> So, in my opinion their comment is incorrect. Can you clarify with them?

>

>

>

> If it is me missing something, can you ask them to explain with other

> wording. Non-native English speakers as myself, can be missing something

> maybe?

>

>

>

> I also understand that they said “this proposal is compatible with or

> without that clarification”, however, I prefer to clarify it if really

> needed.

>

>

>

> In my next version I will remove the ASN, and I will send a separate

> proposal for ASN, so to avoid mixing things. I think it may be easeir to

> reach consensus “spliting” the problem in two proposals. Anyway, the input

> from APNIC, which was anyway a clarification – I asked already about this,

> but never got the response – will be good to make sure to have a good new

> AS transfers proposal.

>

>

>

> Regarding LACNIC input, we know that they don’t have ASN transfers at the

> moment, but it is clear that it doesn’t make the proposal incompatible.

> Regarding the other comment, I understand that it is just a comment, not

> stating any incompatibility. Can you please confirm?

>

>

>

> Tks!

>

>

>

> Regards,

>

> Jordi

>

> @jordipalet

>

>

>

>

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>

>

> El 27/10/20 6:22, "Madhvi Gokool" <madhvi at afrinic.net> escribió:

>

>

>

> Dear PDWG

>

> Please find the other RIRs' response regarding the

> compatibility/reciprocity of the following proposals in the document

> attached.

>

> Resource Transfer Policy(draft 2)

> <https://afrinic.net/policy/proposals/2019-v4-003-d2#proposal> -

> AFPUB-2019-V4-003-DRAFT02

>

> Resource Transfer Policy(draft 3)

> <https://afrinic.net/policy/proposals/2019-v4-003-d2#proposal> -

> AFPUB-2019-V4-003-DRAFT03

>

> AFRINIC Number Resources Transfer Policy - AFPUB-2019-GEN-002-DRAFT02

> <https://afrinic.net/policy/proposals/2019-gen-002-d2>

>

> IPv4 Inter-RIR Resource Transfers (Comprehensive Scope) -

> AFPUB-2019-IPv4-002-DRAFT04

> <https://afrinic.net/policy/proposals/2019-ipv4-002-d4>

>

> If you are commenting on a specific proposal , please ensure that you

> mention the policy name or ID in the subject line .

>

> Kind Regards

>

> Madhvi

>

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>

> Madhvi Gokool

>

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> On 23/09/2020 9:51 AM, Madhvi Gokool wrote:

>

>  Dear PDWG

>

> During the Policy discussions in the AFRINIC-32 PPM  on 17 Sep 2020, there

> was a debate regarding the reciprocity of one inter-RIR transfer policy

> proposal with ARIN. The Policy Liaison had responded that since there are 3

> policy proposals under discussion and that two of them had undergone

> revision in 2020 , AFRINIC shall contact ARIN to get their authoritative

> response in regard to the reciprocity of all the *3 proposals*.

>

> Since the  LACNIC, RIPE and APNIC RIRs all have inter-RIR transfer

> policies, and we, AFRINIC do not have their assessment of the reciprocity

> of the 3 policy proposals under discussion on record,  AFRINIC has

> therefore reached out to all  4 RIRs to  get their inputs regarding the

> reciprocity of the* three *policy proposals that were discussed in the

> AFRINIC PPM last week.

>

> We shall update you once we have received the updates from the  4 RIRs. "

>

> Kind Regards

>

> Madhvi

>

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