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[rpd] Transfer Policy Proposal v.3.docx

Fernando Frediani fhfrediani at gmail.com
Fri Oct 9 15:56:10 UTC 2020


On 09/10/2020 12:32, Mike Burns wrote:
>
> Hi Noah,
>
> Can you provide an estimated total of the fees that we are talking 
> about  here and how they compare to AFRINIC’s revenue overall?
>
> After all, it is your side which is seeking to stop this policy from 
> proceeding, apparently partially based on the fee argument.
>
> I am a legacy holder as well as non-legacy holder and I am well aware 
> of the arguments about provision of legacy services to members with 
> legacy resources. I understand the value of bringing addresses under 
> an RSA, and I understand the value of keeping legacy holders 
> participating. They are at tension.
>
Probably the value of legacy holders participating are only to the 
Brokers who manage the deal and get commission on it. I don't see the 
community getting much out of it and still having to pay the bill 
(regardless if the cost is high or low) which causes a double 
unfairness: 1) Some pay, some not 2) Some has rules to follow, some not.

> This is not the place or time for those arguments, however.
>
If a proposal may change this dramatically that is certainly the right 
place to discuss this matter.

Fernando

> Regards,
> Mike
>
> *From:* Noah <noah at neo.co.tz>
> *Sent:* Friday, October 09, 2020 11:17 AM
> *To:* Mike Burns <mike at iptrading.com>
> *Cc:* JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <jordi.palet at consulintel.es>; rpd List 
> <rpd at afrinic.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [rpd] Transfer Policy Proposal v.3.docx
>
> On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 5:54 PM Mike Burns <mike at iptrading.com 
> <mailto:mike at iptrading.com>> wrote:
>
>     **
>
>     Fees avoided by legacy status are a very small issue here,
>
> Mike I am not surprised by your subjective opinion above. As such, be 
> reminded that legacy space holders are benefitting from various 
> services which are made possible from fees paid by AFRINIC resource 
> members. So this is not a small issue if others have to bleed money 
> for legacy space holders to enjoy freely.
>
>     not something that should delay this important policy.
>
> What is the rush. Shall we not follow the policy development process 
> just because you think this particular proposal is so important 
> because it's open ended which is what you would like to see.
>
> What is important is that the*PDP process must be followed to the 
> letter* and all pending issues with this proposal and the other 
> inter-rir transfer policy proposal must be addressed and that includes 
> the impact on AFRINIC Ltd which I am sure you careless about.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Noah
>
>
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