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Fernando Frediani fhfrediani at gmail.com
Mon Sep 21 15:12:27 UTC 2020


+1
That's about it.

Fernando

On 21/09/2020 11:41, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via RPD wrote:

>

> Hi Lamiaa,

>

> Internet is about cooperation, I don’t think you can choose “not to

> reply”. You can choose “not to consider it an abuse”, but not reply at

> all, in my opinion, will be against the correct management of the

> resources, which you’re bound as an AFRINIC member. You can choose to

> no reply to victims if they insist in something that you told them is

> not an abuse, that’s fine, but you must reply to AFRINIC for the

> validation of any data, whois, etc.

>

> Regarding how you run your network, I’m trying to understand your

> perspective, that’s it.

>

> Regards,

>

> Jordi

>

> @jordipalet

>

> El 21/9/20 14:46, "Lamiaa Chnayti" <lamiaachnayti at gmail.com

> <mailto:lamiaachnayti at gmail.com>> escribió:

>

> Hey Jordi,

>

>

>

> You keep mixing up two very simple concepts, it is ok for AFRINIC to

> include abuse-c as part of whois registration, just like admin-c or

> tech-c. But IT IS ENTIRELY absurd to have AFRINIC to verify how

> members reply to their Email, even down to the subject line. It is

> entirely the network's right to choose NOT to reply to that "victim

> ISP" at all because it doesn't think this is an abuse.

> And again you keep asking about my personal network and how I run it,

> and which is entirely irrelevant to this policy discussion. You can

> not disqualify people by disallowing anyone not running a network in

> this list, so what is your point? People discussing here who are

> running networks or not are none of anyone's business and is not

> relevant to the discussion of this policy.

> Regards,

> Lamiaa

>

> Le lun. 21 sept. 2020 à 10:00, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via RPD

> <rpd at afrinic.net <mailto:rpd at afrinic.net>> a écrit :

>

> Hi Lamiaa,

>

> 8.3 and 8.4 are making sure that you respond to an abuse case,

> **not** that you **recognize** it as an abuse. It is your choice

> to tell the “victim ISP”, look for me this is not an abuse, so I

> will not do anything about it.

>

> AFRINIC can’t verify this automatically, because it doesn’t make

> sense that AFRINIC is “sending” fake abuse reports to see if they

> get a response.

>

> AFRINIC can only send an email for the validation of the mailbox.

> It is an existing mailbox? I’m getting a response (for example,

> have they, once I send the validation email, clicked the link or

> went into MyAfrinic to input the validation code?).

>

> 8.4 also states the timing for the validation.

>

> 8.5 is the validation itself, so I guess, according to your

> response, that you’re ok with this specific point. If we don’t

> have it, AFRINIC can’t do a periodic validation.

>

> 8.6. is making sure that you don’t try to fake the validation. For

> instance, you could respond only to AFRINIC validations and then

> discard all the other emails. If we don’t have that, the policy

> may become useless. Note also that in fact, if you follow the RSA,

> **anyone** could escalate **any** lack of CPM compliance. So this

> is making sure that the policy text is honest and transparent.

>

> Or do you prefer to be filtered because you don’t respond?

>

> Clearly this proposal is not asking AFRINIC to be a police. Is

> only making sure that the parties **can talk**. Again: AFRINIC

> will not be involved in “how you handle the case”, but I least you

> should be able to be contacted and respond.

>

> See this example:

>

> If AK or Moses customers are sending me spam, or trying to intrude

> my network, and they have abuse contacts, I will be able to

> complain to them. Then we have two cases:

>

> 1.Moses responds to me and say “you’re right, this is against our

> AUP” (is irrelevant what the law in Moses country say, it is the

> contract with customers what says what is allowed or not). Let’s

> fix it. I will warn the customer, and if they don’t stop, we will

> filter their email port, or even cancel the contract (just

> examples, only Moses can decide what they do).

>

> 2.AK instead doesn’t care, or the mailbox is full or bouncing

> emails or respond “sorry in our network we allow that”. Then I can

> take my own decision, filter only that IP address, or the complete

> AK network. I can even see if this is allowed in his country and

> take legal actions (which usually you don’t do because is costly

> and more of the regulations don’t know “anything” about abuse or

> even Internet!).

>

> AFRINIC will not take any measure if AK decides that is not an

> abuse. It is our problem not AFRINIC problem. However, if the

> email is bouncing, AFRINIC will revalidate the abuse-c and make

> sure that it works.

>

> Is like a phone book. You have there the phones and they must be

> correct, or you need to update them every “n” months. The phone

> book doesn’t tell the purpose of each phone. If you don’t want to

> accept calls related to “ordering pizzas”, you tell the caller

> “this number is not for that”, but at least you must pick up the

> phone otherwise, you don’t know if it is somebody calling by error

> or someone that you really want to talk. And this is true for

> **every** whois contact.

>

> Can you let us know how do you handle it in the networks that you

> operate?

>

> Regards,

>

> Jordi

>

> @jordipalet

>

> El 21/9/20 10:00, "Lamiaa Chnayti" <lamiaachnayti at gmail.com

> <mailto:lamiaachnayti at gmail.com>> escribió:

>

> Hi Fernando,

>

> I think you are very confused. I never said I have a problem with

> people completing their registration. Keep registration---having

> an abuse contact Email in the whois, just like tech contact or

> admin contact--I am perfectly fine with it, and I think the

> current policy achieves 99% it, if you want to add this contact as

> mandatory field I am fine with it as well.

>

>  But the problem of this policy in 8.3-8.6, is that it requires

> AFRINIC to monitor the members HOW to manage their abuse mailbox

> down to the subject line,  and that is out of the scope of

> AFRINIC, just read my last email with logic in mind and you will

> understand. I suggest this policy should be very simple,  adding

> one line to the current policy-- abuse contact is mandatory, and

> it's done, everything else should be deleted.

>

> And again, you are trying to use AFRINIC for something that is not

> in its scope, how someone manages their mailbox is not in the

> scope of AFRINIC, it is like you go to your local church to ask

> them to arrest your neighbour who plays loud music at night when

> you should go to police instead. Same thing for someone running an

> abusive network, as many already stated, it is up to a local Jury

> to decide if it is simply at an annoying level or a criminal

> offense, but either way please do go to your local police to

> report it.

>

> As for the internet, we never tell you how to behave--you are

> entirely at your rights in the internet to behave abusively, but

> it is also entirely in everyone's rights to block you, that's how

> de-centralizing works, no central governing, everyone plays nice

> because that's the only way for everyone else to play with you,

> and this policy here asks AFRINIC to act like a central government

> even down to manage people's mailbox's subject line and that is

> way beyond what internet meant to be.

>

> Regards,

>

> Lamiaa

>

> Le dim. 20 sept. 2020 à 23:42, Fernando Frediani

> <fhfrediani at gmail.com <mailto:fhfrediani at gmail.com>> a écrit :

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> On 19/09/2020 13:19, Lamiaa Chnayti wrote:

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> <clip>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> How is it in the scope of AFRINIC to decide how I manage

> my abuse mailbox? If I want to reply only to a specific

> subject line of my abuse box, it is entirely in my right

> to do. Even if I don't want to reply at the abuse mailbox

> at all, that is my right to do so and if I think no action

> in my network would be considered abuse (although

> unlikely), but it is still from  the internet community

> point of view, entirely in my right to do so. You might

> choose to block me as a network, but that is also your right.

>

> The reason internet is called INTER-NET is because of its

> decentralized nature, you have to play nice for others to

> play with you, but this community never forces anyone to

> play nice, it is not in the scope of AFRINIC to decide how

> members reply to their abuse mailbox, so if 8.3,8.4, 8.5

> and 8.6 are deleted in its entirety, I might consider

> supporting it. Also Jordi, I feel you always have this

> central management type of thinking, and that is so not

> internet.

>

>

>

>

> It is not in the scope of any RIR how anyone manage people's

>

> mailboxes.

>

>

> Nobody exists alone in the Internet. If an organization

>

> hypothetically doesn't care at all and refuses to respond to abuse

>

> emails it probably should re-think its existence in the Internet

>

> business.

>

> The Internet is what is among many reasons because of the

>

> cooperation among its organizations, and there are certain rules

>

> that are agreed cooperatively and must be observed by everyone

>

> willing remain on it, otherwise it may in many cases cause serious

>

> damage to those willing to operate in serious manner and keep it a

>

> healthy place to most people who depend on it.

>

> This forum is about setting rules on how registration information

>

> about resources are kept and it may be of the wish of the

>

> community to refuse keep registration for those who repetitively

>

> abuse of their individual rights.

>

> Fernando

>

>

>

> Regards,

>

> Lamiaa

>

>

>

>

> Le ven. 18 sept. 2020 à 09:23,

>

> JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via RPD <rpd at afrinic.net

> <mailto:rpd at afrinic.net>> a écrit :

>

> Hi Lamiaa,

>

> I don’t agree. Internet doesn't depend on

>

> any jurisdiction; abuse is about what I (the victim

>

> operator) consider abuse. The RFC is clear about that,

>

> in short “Inappropriate public behaviour” (is a

>

> mailbox so to be able to contact in case there is a

>

> possible inappropriate behaviour in the public

>

> Internet). If you want a clearer definition, abuse is

>

> **anything** that I don’t want to accept in my

>

> network because is in any way damaging it.

>

> If I don’t want to accept a DoS, or spam,

>

> or phising, DMCA, or whatever, this is abuse **for

>

> me**. I’ve the right to tell you because that

>

> abuse is coming from your network. If you believe that

>

> is not abuse (and here is your jurisdiction in some

>

> cases, in other just doesn’t exist, but it may be also

>

> your “business” decision – like operators that don’t

>

> care if their customers do spam or intrusion

>

> attempts), you’ve the right to tell me “sorry, this is

>

> not abuse for us”, and then I’ve the right to decide

>

> if I should filter your network based on your

>

> response.

>

> Not having an abuse contact, means that

>

> I’m not able to contact you, so we can’t talk, we

>

> can’t investigate or agree if it is an abuse or not,

>

> so you (the offender operator) don’t have the chance

>

> to decide about it! Is bad for you, is bad for me. In

>

> those cases, my best choice is to filter you. This

>

> create problems for your customers and my customers.

>

> We can’t depend on jurisdictions, because

>

> then the policy will need to consider inter-relations

>

> among every possible “pairs” of country worlds, and we

>

> will need to update the policy based on any

>

> jurisdiction change. The policy is not about that, is

>

> about having a valid responsible contact, not about

>

> deciding what is an abuse, which is among the two

>

> parties.

>

> Tell me what is different from AFRINIC

>

> than the rest of the world, because none of the RIRs

>

> have defined abuse in their policies. I even don’t

>

> recall that having appeared in the discussions!

>

> If

>

> you want, I’m happy to change the title of the

>

> proposal to “supposed abuse contact”, that may be

>

> clearing your point?

>

> Again,

>

> this is not about defining what is abuse, this is

>

> among the parties. It is about making sure that

>

> there is a valid responsible contact in case of

>

> anyone needs to report what he considers an abuse.

>

> AFRINIC will not punish anyone that believes that

>

> his customer is not doing an abuse because in his

>

> country is not an abuse.

>

> Regards,

>

> Jordi

>

> @jordipalet

>

> El

>

> 18/9/20 9:59, "Lamiaa Chnayti"

> <lamiaachnayti at gmail.com <mailto:lamiaachnayti at gmail.com>>

>

> escribió:

>

> Hello

>

> Jordi,

>

> RFC2142

>

> only defines a tiny portion of the network abuse. In

>

> real world operation, abuse consists of a  much

>

> boarder range : DMCA(copy rights) claims,

>

> unsolicited emails , phishing  websites , trade mark

>

> disputes etc.

>

> All

>

> those are legal issues that vary vastly across

>

> different juridictions in which no one but each of

>

> the juridiction’s judges can decide if it is an

>

> abuse or an illegal activity. Claiming that RFC2142

>

> defines not even 1% of real world abuse is

>

> laughable.

>

> Regards,

>

> Lamiaa

>

> Le jeu.

>

> 17 sept. 2020 à 15:51, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via

>

> RPD <rpd at afrinic.net <mailto:rpd at afrinic.net>>

>

> a écrit :

>

> Hi

>

> Lamiaa,

>

> I’ve

>

> said this already. This policy doesn’t

>

> enforce abuse, it enforces that the abuse

>

> contact is there, and works.

>

> Today

>

> AFRINIC is paying for the cost of the

>

> abuse handling because only a tiny

>

> fraction of the members has the abuse

>

> contacts in place.

>

> If

>

> the contacts in the RIR database aren’t

>

> actual and accurate, this is a clear

>

> violation of the RSA. So what is

>

> unacceptable is not having the contacts,

>

> not on the other way around.

>

> Abuse

>

> is not defined by the RIRs, everybody

>

> knows it and this is the reason why NONE

>

> of the RIRs have re-defined it, because it

>

> is already stated in RFC2142. Can you

>

> justify why AFRINIC is different and need

>

> a definition?

>

> How

>

> you define it in the networks that you

>

> operate?

>

> Regards,

>

> Jordi

>

> @jordipalet

>

> El 17/9/20

>

> 10:49, "Lamiaa Chnayti" <lamiaachnayti at gmail.com

> <mailto:lamiaachnayti at gmail.com>>

>

> escribió:

>

> Hello,

>

> I

>

> will have to agree with Lucilla on what

>

> she said and would like to add to it

>

> that :

>

> Firstly, Abuse

>

> enforcement is out of scope for RIRs.

>

> Secondly, RIRs

>

> have no ability to define what is

>

> “abuse”, one abuse or even criminal

>

> activity could be entirely a legal

>

> operation in a different jurisdiction.

>

> Finally, making

>

> a member forcefully reply to abuse

>

> contact Emails are a waste of resources

>

> and totally pointless, it is entirely up

>

> to the member to define what they think

>

> is acceptable in their network operation

>

> and how they react to it. AFRINIC has no

>

> mandate to force any member to reply to

>

> an “abuse”, since AFRINIC doesn’t even

>

> have the ability to identify what is

>

> considered an abuse.

>

> Therefore the

>

> entire policy is out of scope for the

>

> RIR operation.

>

> Regards,

>

> Lamiaa

>

> Le jeu. 17

>

> sept. 2020 à 07:42, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ

>

> via RPD <rpd at afrinic.net <mailto:rpd at afrinic.net>>

>

> a écrit :

>

> Hi Lucilla,

>

> Today we already have

>

> mnt-IRT, and everybody who operate

>

> networks understand what it is an

>

> abuse. If you operate networks you

>

> know that **anything** which

>

> is a non-authorized use of a

>

> network is an abuse.

>

> If you send spam,

>

> attack networks, try to intrude

>

> networks, etc., all those are

>

> abuse.

>

> What the policy ask

>

> is to make sure that in AFRINIC

>

> everybody has an abuse contact

>

> (today we have mnt-IRT, but is not

>

> mandatory, and as a results many

>

> African networks are filtered

>

> because lack of that – and

>

> consequently they do not respond

>

> to abuse cases -, which exist in

>

> all the other regions of the

>

> world).

>

> Not having an abuse

>

> means more chances of legal

>

> actions, more cost, for both the

>

> victims and the ISPs. Having

>

> that means that you have more

>

> chances to resolve it in

>

> goodfaith.

>

> One of the **most

>

> important** Afrinic

>

> missions is to have accuracy on

>

> the database, which includes

>

> accuracy on the contacts. We are

>

> not fulfilling that in this

>

> situation.

>

> Remember that **all**

>

> the other RIRs have already this

>

> kind of policy. This one is like

>

> the one that has been

>

> implemented in APNIC, and the

>

> accuracy of the contacts is now

>

> 87.5% as reported this month in

>

> the last APNIC meeting. In that

>

> report **none** of the

>

> members indicated any of the

>

> issues that you indicated

>

> (didn't happened as well in the

>

> other regions).

>

> You know who is

>

> interested in not having abuse

>

> contacts? Those that use their

>

> networks for doing abuse

>

> (hijacking, spam, DoS,

>

> intrusions, etc.).

>

> Can you explain if

>

> the network that you operate has

>

> an abuse contact an how if one

>

> of your customes is trying to

>

> penetrate my network or do a

>

> DoS, I will be able to contact

>

> you and if you will do anything

>

> or just ignore it?

>

> Regards,

>

> Jordi

>

> @jordipalet

>

> El

>

> 17/9/20 2:21, "lucilla fornaro"

>

> <lucillafornarosawamoto at gmail.com

> <mailto:lucillafornarosawamoto at gmail.com>>

>

> escribió:

>

> Dear

>

> all,

>

> I

>

> have some concerns about the

>

> “Abuse Contact Policy”.

>

> First

>

> of all, it does not offer a

>

> specific and regulated

>

> description of the term

>

> “abuse”  and this opens the

>

> door to potentially bigger

>

> problems: a surplus of

>

> reports, discrimination/legal

>

> issues, and a waste of

>

> resources. Around the world,

>

> we can perceive what abuse is

>

> in very different ways.

>

> Afrinic

>

> is not entitled to force

>

> members to report abuses and

>

> most importantly, this

>

> proposal does not represent

>

> Afrinic’s purpose.

>

> I,

>

> therefore, oppose this policy.

>

> Thank

>

> you,

>

> Lucilla

>

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> 17 sept. 2020 à 15:49, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via

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>

> a écrit :

>

> Hi

>

> Lamiaa,

>

> I’ve

>

> said this already. This policy doesn’t

>

> enforce abuse, it enforces that the abuse

>

> contact is there, and works.

>

> Today

>

> AFRINIC is paying for the cost of the abuse

>

> handling because only a tiny fraction of the

>

> members has the abuse contacts in place.

>

> If the

>

> contacts in the RIR database aren’t actual

>

> and accurate, this is a clear violation of

>

> the RSA. So what is unacceptable is not

>

> having the contacts, not on the other way

>

> around.

>

> Abuse is

>

> not defined by the RIRs, everybody knows it

>

> and this is the reason why NONE of the RIRs

>

> have re-defined it, because it is already

>

> stated in RFC2142. Can you justify why

>

> AFRINIC is different and need a definition?

>

> How you

>

> define it in the networks that you operate?

>

> Regards,

>

> Jordi

>

> @jordipalet

>

> El 17/9/20

>

> 10:49, "Lamiaa Chnayti" <lamiaachnayti at gmail.com

> <mailto:lamiaachnayti at gmail.com>>

>

> escribió:

>

> Hello,

>

> I

>

> will have to agree with Lucilla on what

>

> she said and would like to add to it that

>

> :

>

> Firstly, Abuse

>

> enforcement is out of scope for RIRs.

>

> Secondly, RIRs

>

> have no ability to define what is “abuse”,

>

> one abuse or even criminal activity could

>

> be entirely a legal operation in a

>

> different jurisdiction.

>

> Finally, making

>

> a member forcefully reply to abuse contact

>

> Emails are a waste of resources and

>

> totally pointless, it is entirely up to

>

> the member to define what they think is

>

> acceptable in their network operation and

>

> how they react to it. AFRINIC has no

>

> mandate to force any member to reply to an

>

> “abuse”, since AFRINIC doesn’t even have

>

> the ability to identify what is considered

>

> an abuse.

>

> Therefore the

>

> entire policy is out of scope for the RIR

>

> operation.

>

> Regards,

>

> Lamiaa

>

> Le jeu. 17

>

> sept. 2020 à 07:42, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ

>

> via RPD <rpd at afrinic.net <mailto:rpd at afrinic.net>>

>

> a écrit :

>

> Hi

>

> Lucilla,

>

> Today

>

> we already have mnt-IRT, and

>

> everybody who operate networks

>

> understand what it is an abuse. If

>

> you operate networks you know that **anything**

>

> which is a non-authorized use of a

>

> network is an abuse.

>

> If

>

> you send spam, attack networks, try

>

> to intrude networks, etc., all those

>

> are abuse.

>

> What

>

> the policy ask is to make sure that

>

> in AFRINIC everybody has an abuse

>

> contact (today we have mnt-IRT, but

>

> is not mandatory, and as a results

>

> many African networks are filtered

>

> because lack of that – and

>

> consequently they do not respond to

>

> abuse cases -, which exist in all

>

> the other regions of the world).

>

> Not having an abuse

>

> means more chances of legal

>

> actions, more cost, for both the

>

> victims and the ISPs. Having that

>

> means that you have more chances

>

> to resolve it in goodfaith.

>

> One of the **most

>

> important** Afrinic missions

>

> is to have accuracy on the

>

> database, which includes accuracy

>

> on the contacts. We are not

>

> fulfilling that in this situation.

>

> Remember that **all**

>

> the other RIRs have already this

>

> kind of policy. This one is like

>

> the one that has been implemented

>

> in APNIC, and the accuracy of the

>

> contacts is now 87.5% as reported

>

> this month in the last APNIC

>

> meeting. In that report **none**

>

> of the members indicated any of

>

> the issues that you indicated

>

> (didn't happened as well in the

>

> other regions).

>

> You know who is

>

> interested in not having abuse

>

> contacts? Those that use their

>

> networks for doing abuse

>

> (hijacking, spam, DoS, intrusions,

>

> etc.).

>

> Can you explain if

>

> the network that you operate has

>

> an abuse contact an how if one of

>

> your customes is trying to

>

> penetrate my network or do a DoS,

>

> I will be able to contact you and

>

> if you will do anything or just

>

> ignore it?

>

> Regards,

>

> Jordi

>

> @jordipalet

>

> El

>

> 17/9/20 2:21, "lucilla fornaro"

>

> <lucillafornarosawamoto at gmail.com

> <mailto:lucillafornarosawamoto at gmail.com>>

>

> escribió:

>

> Dear

>

> all,

>

> I

>

> have some concerns about the

>

> “Abuse Contact Policy”.

>

> First

>

> of all, it does not offer a

>

> specific and regulated

>

> description of the term “abuse”

>

>  and this opens the door to

>

> potentially bigger problems: a

>

> surplus of reports,

>

> discrimination/legal issues, and

>

> a waste of resources. Around the

>

> world, we can perceive what

>

> abuse is in very different ways.

>

> Afrinic

>

> is not entitled to force members

>

> to report abuses and most

>

> importantly, this proposal does

>

> not represent Afrinic’s purpose.

>

> I,

>

> therefore, oppose this policy.

>

> Thank

>

> you,

>

> Lucilla

>

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