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[rpd] Abuse Contact Policy
Fernando Frediani
fhfrediani at gmail.com
Mon Sep 21 15:12:27 UTC 2020
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That's about it.
Fernando
On 21/09/2020 11:41, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via RPD wrote:
>
> Hi Lamiaa,
>
> Internet is about cooperation, I don’t think you can choose “not to
> reply”. You can choose “not to consider it an abuse”, but not reply at
> all, in my opinion, will be against the correct management of the
> resources, which you’re bound as an AFRINIC member. You can choose to
> no reply to victims if they insist in something that you told them is
> not an abuse, that’s fine, but you must reply to AFRINIC for the
> validation of any data, whois, etc.
>
> Regarding how you run your network, I’m trying to understand your
> perspective, that’s it.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jordi
>
> @jordipalet
>
> El 21/9/20 14:46, "Lamiaa Chnayti" <lamiaachnayti at gmail.com
> <mailto:lamiaachnayti at gmail.com>> escribió:
>
> Hey Jordi,
>
>
>
> You keep mixing up two very simple concepts, it is ok for AFRINIC to
> include abuse-c as part of whois registration, just like admin-c or
> tech-c. But IT IS ENTIRELY absurd to have AFRINIC to verify how
> members reply to their Email, even down to the subject line. It is
> entirely the network's right to choose NOT to reply to that "victim
> ISP" at all because it doesn't think this is an abuse.
> And again you keep asking about my personal network and how I run it,
> and which is entirely irrelevant to this policy discussion. You can
> not disqualify people by disallowing anyone not running a network in
> this list, so what is your point? People discussing here who are
> running networks or not are none of anyone's business and is not
> relevant to the discussion of this policy.
> Regards,
> Lamiaa
>
> Le lun. 21 sept. 2020 à 10:00, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via RPD
> <rpd at afrinic.net <mailto:rpd at afrinic.net>> a écrit :
>
> Hi Lamiaa,
>
> 8.3 and 8.4 are making sure that you respond to an abuse case,
> **not** that you **recognize** it as an abuse. It is your choice
> to tell the “victim ISP”, look for me this is not an abuse, so I
> will not do anything about it.
>
> AFRINIC can’t verify this automatically, because it doesn’t make
> sense that AFRINIC is “sending” fake abuse reports to see if they
> get a response.
>
> AFRINIC can only send an email for the validation of the mailbox.
> It is an existing mailbox? I’m getting a response (for example,
> have they, once I send the validation email, clicked the link or
> went into MyAfrinic to input the validation code?).
>
> 8.4 also states the timing for the validation.
>
> 8.5 is the validation itself, so I guess, according to your
> response, that you’re ok with this specific point. If we don’t
> have it, AFRINIC can’t do a periodic validation.
>
> 8.6. is making sure that you don’t try to fake the validation. For
> instance, you could respond only to AFRINIC validations and then
> discard all the other emails. If we don’t have that, the policy
> may become useless. Note also that in fact, if you follow the RSA,
> **anyone** could escalate **any** lack of CPM compliance. So this
> is making sure that the policy text is honest and transparent.
>
> Or do you prefer to be filtered because you don’t respond?
>
> Clearly this proposal is not asking AFRINIC to be a police. Is
> only making sure that the parties **can talk**. Again: AFRINIC
> will not be involved in “how you handle the case”, but I least you
> should be able to be contacted and respond.
>
> See this example:
>
> If AK or Moses customers are sending me spam, or trying to intrude
> my network, and they have abuse contacts, I will be able to
> complain to them. Then we have two cases:
>
> 1.Moses responds to me and say “you’re right, this is against our
> AUP” (is irrelevant what the law in Moses country say, it is the
> contract with customers what says what is allowed or not). Let’s
> fix it. I will warn the customer, and if they don’t stop, we will
> filter their email port, or even cancel the contract (just
> examples, only Moses can decide what they do).
>
> 2.AK instead doesn’t care, or the mailbox is full or bouncing
> emails or respond “sorry in our network we allow that”. Then I can
> take my own decision, filter only that IP address, or the complete
> AK network. I can even see if this is allowed in his country and
> take legal actions (which usually you don’t do because is costly
> and more of the regulations don’t know “anything” about abuse or
> even Internet!).
>
> AFRINIC will not take any measure if AK decides that is not an
> abuse. It is our problem not AFRINIC problem. However, if the
> email is bouncing, AFRINIC will revalidate the abuse-c and make
> sure that it works.
>
> Is like a phone book. You have there the phones and they must be
> correct, or you need to update them every “n” months. The phone
> book doesn’t tell the purpose of each phone. If you don’t want to
> accept calls related to “ordering pizzas”, you tell the caller
> “this number is not for that”, but at least you must pick up the
> phone otherwise, you don’t know if it is somebody calling by error
> or someone that you really want to talk. And this is true for
> **every** whois contact.
>
> Can you let us know how do you handle it in the networks that you
> operate?
>
> Regards,
>
> Jordi
>
> @jordipalet
>
> El 21/9/20 10:00, "Lamiaa Chnayti" <lamiaachnayti at gmail.com
> <mailto:lamiaachnayti at gmail.com>> escribió:
>
> Hi Fernando,
>
> I think you are very confused. I never said I have a problem with
> people completing their registration. Keep registration---having
> an abuse contact Email in the whois, just like tech contact or
> admin contact--I am perfectly fine with it, and I think the
> current policy achieves 99% it, if you want to add this contact as
> mandatory field I am fine with it as well.
>
> But the problem of this policy in 8.3-8.6, is that it requires
> AFRINIC to monitor the members HOW to manage their abuse mailbox
> down to the subject line, and that is out of the scope of
> AFRINIC, just read my last email with logic in mind and you will
> understand. I suggest this policy should be very simple, adding
> one line to the current policy-- abuse contact is mandatory, and
> it's done, everything else should be deleted.
>
> And again, you are trying to use AFRINIC for something that is not
> in its scope, how someone manages their mailbox is not in the
> scope of AFRINIC, it is like you go to your local church to ask
> them to arrest your neighbour who plays loud music at night when
> you should go to police instead. Same thing for someone running an
> abusive network, as many already stated, it is up to a local Jury
> to decide if it is simply at an annoying level or a criminal
> offense, but either way please do go to your local police to
> report it.
>
> As for the internet, we never tell you how to behave--you are
> entirely at your rights in the internet to behave abusively, but
> it is also entirely in everyone's rights to block you, that's how
> de-centralizing works, no central governing, everyone plays nice
> because that's the only way for everyone else to play with you,
> and this policy here asks AFRINIC to act like a central government
> even down to manage people's mailbox's subject line and that is
> way beyond what internet meant to be.
>
> Regards,
>
> Lamiaa
>
> Le dim. 20 sept. 2020 à 23:42, Fernando Frediani
> <fhfrediani at gmail.com <mailto:fhfrediani at gmail.com>> a écrit :
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 19/09/2020 13:19, Lamiaa Chnayti wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> <clip>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> How is it in the scope of AFRINIC to decide how I manage
> my abuse mailbox? If I want to reply only to a specific
> subject line of my abuse box, it is entirely in my right
> to do. Even if I don't want to reply at the abuse mailbox
> at all, that is my right to do so and if I think no action
> in my network would be considered abuse (although
> unlikely), but it is still from the internet community
> point of view, entirely in my right to do so. You might
> choose to block me as a network, but that is also your right.
>
> The reason internet is called INTER-NET is because of its
> decentralized nature, you have to play nice for others to
> play with you, but this community never forces anyone to
> play nice, it is not in the scope of AFRINIC to decide how
> members reply to their abuse mailbox, so if 8.3,8.4, 8.5
> and 8.6 are deleted in its entirety, I might consider
> supporting it. Also Jordi, I feel you always have this
> central management type of thinking, and that is so not
> internet.
>
>
>
>
> It is not in the scope of any RIR how anyone manage people's
>
> mailboxes.
>
>
> Nobody exists alone in the Internet. If an organization
>
> hypothetically doesn't care at all and refuses to respond to abuse
>
> emails it probably should re-think its existence in the Internet
>
> business.
>
> The Internet is what is among many reasons because of the
>
> cooperation among its organizations, and there are certain rules
>
> that are agreed cooperatively and must be observed by everyone
>
> willing remain on it, otherwise it may in many cases cause serious
>
> damage to those willing to operate in serious manner and keep it a
>
> healthy place to most people who depend on it.
>
> This forum is about setting rules on how registration information
>
> about resources are kept and it may be of the wish of the
>
> community to refuse keep registration for those who repetitively
>
> abuse of their individual rights.
>
> Fernando
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Lamiaa
>
>
>
>
> Le ven. 18 sept. 2020 à 09:23,
>
> JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via RPD <rpd at afrinic.net
> <mailto:rpd at afrinic.net>> a écrit :
>
> Hi Lamiaa,
>
> I don’t agree. Internet doesn't depend on
>
> any jurisdiction; abuse is about what I (the victim
>
> operator) consider abuse. The RFC is clear about that,
>
> in short “Inappropriate public behaviour” (is a
>
> mailbox so to be able to contact in case there is a
>
> possible inappropriate behaviour in the public
>
> Internet). If you want a clearer definition, abuse is
>
> **anything** that I don’t want to accept in my
>
> network because is in any way damaging it.
>
> If I don’t want to accept a DoS, or spam,
>
> or phising, DMCA, or whatever, this is abuse **for
>
> me**. I’ve the right to tell you because that
>
> abuse is coming from your network. If you believe that
>
> is not abuse (and here is your jurisdiction in some
>
> cases, in other just doesn’t exist, but it may be also
>
> your “business” decision – like operators that don’t
>
> care if their customers do spam or intrusion
>
> attempts), you’ve the right to tell me “sorry, this is
>
> not abuse for us”, and then I’ve the right to decide
>
> if I should filter your network based on your
>
> response.
>
> Not having an abuse contact, means that
>
> I’m not able to contact you, so we can’t talk, we
>
> can’t investigate or agree if it is an abuse or not,
>
> so you (the offender operator) don’t have the chance
>
> to decide about it! Is bad for you, is bad for me. In
>
> those cases, my best choice is to filter you. This
>
> create problems for your customers and my customers.
>
> We can’t depend on jurisdictions, because
>
> then the policy will need to consider inter-relations
>
> among every possible “pairs” of country worlds, and we
>
> will need to update the policy based on any
>
> jurisdiction change. The policy is not about that, is
>
> about having a valid responsible contact, not about
>
> deciding what is an abuse, which is among the two
>
> parties.
>
> Tell me what is different from AFRINIC
>
> than the rest of the world, because none of the RIRs
>
> have defined abuse in their policies. I even don’t
>
> recall that having appeared in the discussions!
>
> If
>
> you want, I’m happy to change the title of the
>
> proposal to “supposed abuse contact”, that may be
>
> clearing your point?
>
> Again,
>
> this is not about defining what is abuse, this is
>
> among the parties. It is about making sure that
>
> there is a valid responsible contact in case of
>
> anyone needs to report what he considers an abuse.
>
> AFRINIC will not punish anyone that believes that
>
> his customer is not doing an abuse because in his
>
> country is not an abuse.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jordi
>
> @jordipalet
>
> El
>
> 18/9/20 9:59, "Lamiaa Chnayti"
> <lamiaachnayti at gmail.com <mailto:lamiaachnayti at gmail.com>>
>
> escribió:
>
> Hello
>
> Jordi,
>
> RFC2142
>
> only defines a tiny portion of the network abuse. In
>
> real world operation, abuse consists of a much
>
> boarder range : DMCA(copy rights) claims,
>
> unsolicited emails , phishing websites , trade mark
>
> disputes etc.
>
> All
>
> those are legal issues that vary vastly across
>
> different juridictions in which no one but each of
>
> the juridiction’s judges can decide if it is an
>
> abuse or an illegal activity. Claiming that RFC2142
>
> defines not even 1% of real world abuse is
>
> laughable.
>
> Regards,
>
> Lamiaa
>
> Le jeu.
>
> 17 sept. 2020 à 15:51, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via
>
> RPD <rpd at afrinic.net <mailto:rpd at afrinic.net>>
>
> a écrit :
>
> Hi
>
> Lamiaa,
>
> I’ve
>
> said this already. This policy doesn’t
>
> enforce abuse, it enforces that the abuse
>
> contact is there, and works.
>
> Today
>
> AFRINIC is paying for the cost of the
>
> abuse handling because only a tiny
>
> fraction of the members has the abuse
>
> contacts in place.
>
> If
>
> the contacts in the RIR database aren’t
>
> actual and accurate, this is a clear
>
> violation of the RSA. So what is
>
> unacceptable is not having the contacts,
>
> not on the other way around.
>
> Abuse
>
> is not defined by the RIRs, everybody
>
> knows it and this is the reason why NONE
>
> of the RIRs have re-defined it, because it
>
> is already stated in RFC2142. Can you
>
> justify why AFRINIC is different and need
>
> a definition?
>
> How
>
> you define it in the networks that you
>
> operate?
>
> Regards,
>
> Jordi
>
> @jordipalet
>
> El 17/9/20
>
> 10:49, "Lamiaa Chnayti" <lamiaachnayti at gmail.com
> <mailto:lamiaachnayti at gmail.com>>
>
> escribió:
>
> Hello,
>
> I
>
> will have to agree with Lucilla on what
>
> she said and would like to add to it
>
> that :
>
> Firstly, Abuse
>
> enforcement is out of scope for RIRs.
>
> Secondly, RIRs
>
> have no ability to define what is
>
> “abuse”, one abuse or even criminal
>
> activity could be entirely a legal
>
> operation in a different jurisdiction.
>
> Finally, making
>
> a member forcefully reply to abuse
>
> contact Emails are a waste of resources
>
> and totally pointless, it is entirely up
>
> to the member to define what they think
>
> is acceptable in their network operation
>
> and how they react to it. AFRINIC has no
>
> mandate to force any member to reply to
>
> an “abuse”, since AFRINIC doesn’t even
>
> have the ability to identify what is
>
> considered an abuse.
>
> Therefore the
>
> entire policy is out of scope for the
>
> RIR operation.
>
> Regards,
>
> Lamiaa
>
> Le jeu. 17
>
> sept. 2020 à 07:42, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
>
> via RPD <rpd at afrinic.net <mailto:rpd at afrinic.net>>
>
> a écrit :
>
> Hi Lucilla,
>
> Today we already have
>
> mnt-IRT, and everybody who operate
>
> networks understand what it is an
>
> abuse. If you operate networks you
>
> know that **anything** which
>
> is a non-authorized use of a
>
> network is an abuse.
>
> If you send spam,
>
> attack networks, try to intrude
>
> networks, etc., all those are
>
> abuse.
>
> What the policy ask
>
> is to make sure that in AFRINIC
>
> everybody has an abuse contact
>
> (today we have mnt-IRT, but is not
>
> mandatory, and as a results many
>
> African networks are filtered
>
> because lack of that – and
>
> consequently they do not respond
>
> to abuse cases -, which exist in
>
> all the other regions of the
>
> world).
>
> Not having an abuse
>
> means more chances of legal
>
> actions, more cost, for both the
>
> victims and the ISPs. Having
>
> that means that you have more
>
> chances to resolve it in
>
> goodfaith.
>
> One of the **most
>
> important** Afrinic
>
> missions is to have accuracy on
>
> the database, which includes
>
> accuracy on the contacts. We are
>
> not fulfilling that in this
>
> situation.
>
> Remember that **all**
>
> the other RIRs have already this
>
> kind of policy. This one is like
>
> the one that has been
>
> implemented in APNIC, and the
>
> accuracy of the contacts is now
>
> 87.5% as reported this month in
>
> the last APNIC meeting. In that
>
> report **none** of the
>
> members indicated any of the
>
> issues that you indicated
>
> (didn't happened as well in the
>
> other regions).
>
> You know who is
>
> interested in not having abuse
>
> contacts? Those that use their
>
> networks for doing abuse
>
> (hijacking, spam, DoS,
>
> intrusions, etc.).
>
> Can you explain if
>
> the network that you operate has
>
> an abuse contact an how if one
>
> of your customes is trying to
>
> penetrate my network or do a
>
> DoS, I will be able to contact
>
> you and if you will do anything
>
> or just ignore it?
>
> Regards,
>
> Jordi
>
> @jordipalet
>
> El
>
> 17/9/20 2:21, "lucilla fornaro"
>
> <lucillafornarosawamoto at gmail.com
> <mailto:lucillafornarosawamoto at gmail.com>>
>
> escribió:
>
> Dear
>
> all,
>
> I
>
> have some concerns about the
>
> “Abuse Contact Policy”.
>
> First
>
> of all, it does not offer a
>
> specific and regulated
>
> description of the term
>
> “abuse” and this opens the
>
> door to potentially bigger
>
> problems: a surplus of
>
> reports, discrimination/legal
>
> issues, and a waste of
>
> resources. Around the world,
>
> we can perceive what abuse is
>
> in very different ways.
>
> Afrinic
>
> is not entitled to force
>
> members to report abuses and
>
> most importantly, this
>
> proposal does not represent
>
> Afrinic’s purpose.
>
> I,
>
> therefore, oppose this policy.
>
> Thank
>
> you,
>
> Lucilla
>
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> 17 sept. 2020 à 15:49, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via
>
> RPD <rpd at afrinic.net <mailto:rpd at afrinic.net>>
>
> a écrit :
>
> Hi
>
> Lamiaa,
>
> I’ve
>
> said this already. This policy doesn’t
>
> enforce abuse, it enforces that the abuse
>
> contact is there, and works.
>
> Today
>
> AFRINIC is paying for the cost of the abuse
>
> handling because only a tiny fraction of the
>
> members has the abuse contacts in place.
>
> If the
>
> contacts in the RIR database aren’t actual
>
> and accurate, this is a clear violation of
>
> the RSA. So what is unacceptable is not
>
> having the contacts, not on the other way
>
> around.
>
> Abuse is
>
> not defined by the RIRs, everybody knows it
>
> and this is the reason why NONE of the RIRs
>
> have re-defined it, because it is already
>
> stated in RFC2142. Can you justify why
>
> AFRINIC is different and need a definition?
>
> How you
>
> define it in the networks that you operate?
>
> Regards,
>
> Jordi
>
> @jordipalet
>
> El 17/9/20
>
> 10:49, "Lamiaa Chnayti" <lamiaachnayti at gmail.com
> <mailto:lamiaachnayti at gmail.com>>
>
> escribió:
>
> Hello,
>
> I
>
> will have to agree with Lucilla on what
>
> she said and would like to add to it that
>
> :
>
> Firstly, Abuse
>
> enforcement is out of scope for RIRs.
>
> Secondly, RIRs
>
> have no ability to define what is “abuse”,
>
> one abuse or even criminal activity could
>
> be entirely a legal operation in a
>
> different jurisdiction.
>
> Finally, making
>
> a member forcefully reply to abuse contact
>
> Emails are a waste of resources and
>
> totally pointless, it is entirely up to
>
> the member to define what they think is
>
> acceptable in their network operation and
>
> how they react to it. AFRINIC has no
>
> mandate to force any member to reply to an
>
> “abuse”, since AFRINIC doesn’t even have
>
> the ability to identify what is considered
>
> an abuse.
>
> Therefore the
>
> entire policy is out of scope for the RIR
>
> operation.
>
> Regards,
>
> Lamiaa
>
> Le jeu. 17
>
> sept. 2020 à 07:42, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
>
> via RPD <rpd at afrinic.net <mailto:rpd at afrinic.net>>
>
> a écrit :
>
> Hi
>
> Lucilla,
>
> Today
>
> we already have mnt-IRT, and
>
> everybody who operate networks
>
> understand what it is an abuse. If
>
> you operate networks you know that **anything**
>
> which is a non-authorized use of a
>
> network is an abuse.
>
> If
>
> you send spam, attack networks, try
>
> to intrude networks, etc., all those
>
> are abuse.
>
> What
>
> the policy ask is to make sure that
>
> in AFRINIC everybody has an abuse
>
> contact (today we have mnt-IRT, but
>
> is not mandatory, and as a results
>
> many African networks are filtered
>
> because lack of that – and
>
> consequently they do not respond to
>
> abuse cases -, which exist in all
>
> the other regions of the world).
>
> Not having an abuse
>
> means more chances of legal
>
> actions, more cost, for both the
>
> victims and the ISPs. Having that
>
> means that you have more chances
>
> to resolve it in goodfaith.
>
> One of the **most
>
> important** Afrinic missions
>
> is to have accuracy on the
>
> database, which includes accuracy
>
> on the contacts. We are not
>
> fulfilling that in this situation.
>
> Remember that **all**
>
> the other RIRs have already this
>
> kind of policy. This one is like
>
> the one that has been implemented
>
> in APNIC, and the accuracy of the
>
> contacts is now 87.5% as reported
>
> this month in the last APNIC
>
> meeting. In that report **none**
>
> of the members indicated any of
>
> the issues that you indicated
>
> (didn't happened as well in the
>
> other regions).
>
> You know who is
>
> interested in not having abuse
>
> contacts? Those that use their
>
> networks for doing abuse
>
> (hijacking, spam, DoS, intrusions,
>
> etc.).
>
> Can you explain if
>
> the network that you operate has
>
> an abuse contact an how if one of
>
> your customes is trying to
>
> penetrate my network or do a DoS,
>
> I will be able to contact you and
>
> if you will do anything or just
>
> ignore it?
>
> Regards,
>
> Jordi
>
> @jordipalet
>
> El
>
> 17/9/20 2:21, "lucilla fornaro"
>
> <lucillafornarosawamoto at gmail.com
> <mailto:lucillafornarosawamoto at gmail.com>>
>
> escribió:
>
> Dear
>
> all,
>
> I
>
> have some concerns about the
>
> “Abuse Contact Policy”.
>
> First
>
> of all, it does not offer a
>
> specific and regulated
>
> description of the term “abuse”
>
> and this opens the door to
>
> potentially bigger problems: a
>
> surplus of reports,
>
> discrimination/legal issues, and
>
> a waste of resources. Around the
>
> world, we can perceive what
>
> abuse is in very different ways.
>
> Afrinic
>
> is not entitled to force members
>
> to report abuses and most
>
> importantly, this proposal does
>
> not represent Afrinic’s purpose.
>
> I,
>
> therefore, oppose this policy.
>
> Thank
>
> you,
>
> Lucilla
>
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