[rpd] Abuse Contact Policy

[Mark Elkins]

The only people complaining about this policy should be the Resource 
Members of AFRINIC. To be clear, I am a Resource Member (of AFRINIC) and 
I agree with the policy. There is currently a voluntary option to add an 
abuse contact. I personally believe it should be renamed to "abuse-c" 
(so it looks more obvious and similar to the other contacts for an ASN 
or IP allocation/assignment) and should be mandatory. I'd also like a 
bulk way to have this added if possible - because I'm lazy and like many 
others, have multiple allocations/assignments.  Then - if one of my 
allocations/assignments causes a problem to someone in the world - they 
can easily find my abuse support address to complain to. This really 
should be a no-brainer.

On 2020/09/19 10:59, Frank Habicht wrote:

> Hi,

>

> On 19/09/2020 08:40, lucilla fornaro wrote:

>> I have to disagree!

>>

>> The point is: the proposal does not define or give an indicator of what

>> an abuse is.

> It does NOT need to do that.

>

> The policy is NOT about abuses.

> It is about *abuse contacts*.

> It is about publishing *abuse contacts* in case someone, like a network

> operator (who knows what an abuse is), wants to send an abuse complaint.

>

> Network operators know what an abuse is - if they care.

> Others, and this policy, don't need to know what an abuse is.

>

> People, including participants on this list, may even disagree about

> what constitutes abuse. They might also conclude, and agree that "what

> is an abuse" depends on country, opinion, operator policy, time-of-day,

> etc.

> These are all things irrelevant to this policy.

>

> This was stated multiple times.

> Some people seem to ignore this.

> Some people seem to reiterate that a definition of abuse is needed.

> I believe that others and myself have explained why that is not the case.

>

> Do the chairs agree that issues are re-iterated that have been shown to

> be irrelevant to the discussion of this policy?

>

>

>> It is not functional to propose a policy if the elements

>> present in it are not clear.

> I humbly request to differentiate between "abuse" (which this policy is

> not directly about), and "abuse contacts" - which this policy aims to

> ensure are to be published.

>

> We have discussed sufficiently that the definition of "abuse" can vary.

> Depending on /many/ things.

> I believe we have agreed that the definition can vary.

> Maybe the chairs can confirm that. I think this might be helpful.

>

> The policy is about "abuse contacts".

> I believe the 'elements present in it' are in fact clear.

>

>

>> The main focus of the proposal is the

>> abuse,

> no. "abuse contacts".

>

>> you said that the proposal makes sure that there is a valid

>> response incase of an abuse report. BUT if people do not know what

>> Afrinic means for abuse,

> AfriNIC doesn't mean anything about "abuse".

> AfriNIC, I believe, doesn't have a policy about what "abuse" is.

> It is *NOT* for AfriNIC to decide that.

> Network operators are capable of doing that.

> Network operators are willing to do that.

> If others - including participants on this list - are not able to define

> what abuse is, that fact is irrelevant [1].

> Because this policy is for the benefits of network operators.

> And this policy affects AfriNIC Resource Members.

>

> Participants on this mailing list are not required to be network

> operators, nor are they required to be AfriNIC Resource Members.

> Everybody is welcome.

> But when it comes to discussing about the subject of this policy (which

> is *abuse contacts*), it seems to be beneficial to understand some

> distinctions.

>

>> the reports will be too many, often

>> unreasonable, with a consequent waste of time and resources.

> so-called "Waste of resources" :

> a) not on the part of AfriNIC

> b) not on the part of network operators ignoring abuse complaints

> c) possibly on the part of network operators filing abuse complaints

>     [who do understand that there is an unfortunately high chance of

>      getting ignored]

> d) not on the part of recipients of abuse complaints who appreciate the

>     information in the complaints and are willing to

>       i) communicate with the complaintant

>      ii) clean up their network or customers, thus

>     iii) improving their own security and posture (housekeeping)

>

> So, for those who want to be able to get abuse complaints, and for those

> who want to "waste their time" with writing these abuse complaints, can

> we pass this policy so that AfriNIC can enforce resource holders to

> publish the abuse contacts....

> ..... without AfriNIC knowing or defining what constitutes abuse.

>

>

>> In an ideal

>> world, the proposal would be efficient the way it is. But we do not live

>> in an ideal world.

> Is it an improvement? progress in the right direction?

>

>> If we want it to be effective in the long run, it is

>> necessary to make adjustments.

> disagree.

> Also: you "forgot" to suggest the improvements here.

> I wonder why.

>

> I request the chairs to agree that supporters of the policy have shown

> that a definition of "abuse" is not needed and continued calls for that

> are not relevant.

>

>

> Regards,

> Frank

>

> [1]

> sorry, for the strong language of "irrelevant", but I think I better

> make the thoughts very clear

>

>

>> Lucilla

>>> Il giorno ven 18 set 2020 alle ore 21:43 Fernando Frediani

>> <fhfrediani at gmail.com <mailto:fhfrediani at gmail.com>> ha scritto:

>>

>>      On 18/09/2020 05:22, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via RPD wrote:

>>>      <clip>____

>>>

>>>      __ __

>>>

>>>      Again, this is not about defining what is abuse, this is among the

>>>      parties. It is about making sure that there is a valid responsible

>>>      contact in case of anyone needs to report what he considers an

>>>      abuse. AFRINIC will not punish anyone that believes that his

>>>      customer is not doing an abuse because in his country is not an abuse.

>>>

>>      Exactly !

>>

>>      Often people are misunderstanding the intention of the proposals and

>>      opposing them for reasons that are not written on them, which end up

>>      causing more confusion to other people.

>>

>>      I support this proposal

>>      Fernando

>>

>>>      ____

>>>

>>>      __ __

>>>

>>>      Regards,____

>>>

>>>      Jordi____

>>>

>>>      @jordipalet____

>>>

>>>      __ __

>>>

>>>      __ __

>>>

>>>      __ __

>>>

>>>      El 18/9/20 9:59, "Lamiaa Chnayti" <lamiaachnayti at gmail.com

>>>      <mailto:lamiaachnayti at gmail.com>> escribió:____

>>>

>>>      __ __

>>>

>>>      Hello Jordi,____

>>>

>>>      __ __

>>>

>>>      RFC2142 only defines a tiny portion of the network abuse. In real

>>>      world operation, abuse consists of a  much boarder range :

>>>      DMCA(copy rights) claims, unsolicited emails , phishing  websites

>>>      , trade mark disputes etc. ____

>>>

>>>      __ __

>>>

>>>      All those are legal issues that vary vastly across different

>>>      juridictions in which no one but each of the juridiction’s judges

>>>      can decide if it is an abuse or an illegal activity. Claiming that

>>>      RFC2142 defines not even 1% of real world abuse is laughable.____

>>>

>>>      __ __

>>>

>>>      Regards,____

>>>

>>>      __ __

>>>

>>>      Lamiaa____

>>>

>>>      __ __

>>>

>>>      Le jeu. 17 sept. 2020 à 15:51, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via RPD

>>>      <rpd at afrinic.net <mailto:rpd at afrinic.net>> a écrit :____

>>>

>>>          Hi Lamiaa,____

>>>

>>>           ____

>>>

>>>          I’ve said this already. This policy doesn’t enforce abuse, it

>>>          enforces that the abuse contact is there, and works.____

>>>

>>>           ____

>>>

>>>          Today AFRINIC is paying for the cost of the abuse handling

>>>          because only a tiny fraction of the members has the abuse

>>>          contacts in place.____

>>>

>>>           ____

>>>

>>>          If the contacts in the RIR database aren’t actual and

>>>          accurate, this is a clear violation of the RSA. So what is

>>>          unacceptable is not having the contacts, not on the other way

>>>          around.____

>>>

>>>           ____

>>>

>>>          Abuse is not defined by the RIRs, everybody knows it and this

>>>          is the reason why NONE of the RIRs have re-defined it, because

>>>          it is already stated in RFC2142. Can you justify why AFRINIC

>>>          is different and need a definition?____

>>>

>>>           ____

>>>

>>>          How you define it in the networks that you operate?____

>>>

>>>           ____

>>>

>>>          Regards,____

>>>

>>>          Jordi____

>>>

>>>          @jordipalet____

>>>

>>>           ____

>>>

>>>           ____

>>>

>>>           ____

>>>

>>>          El 17/9/20 10:49, "Lamiaa Chnayti" <lamiaachnayti at gmail.com

>>>          <mailto:lamiaachnayti at gmail.com>> escribió:____

>>>

>>>           ____

>>>

>>>           ____

>>>

>>>          Hello,____

>>>

>>>           ____

>>>

>>>          I will have to agree with Lucilla on what she said and would

>>>          like to add to it that :____

>>>

>>>          Firstly, Abuse enforcement is out of scope for RIRs.____

>>>

>>>          Secondly, RIRs have no ability to define what is “abuse”, one

>>>          abuse or even criminal activity could be entirely a legal

>>>          operation in a different jurisdiction.____

>>>

>>>          Finally, making a member forcefully reply to abuse contact

>>>          Emails are a waste of resources and totally pointless, it is

>>>          entirely up to the member to define what they think is

>>>          acceptable in their network operation and how they react to

>>>          it. AFRINIC has no mandate to force any member to reply to an

>>>          “abuse”, since AFRINIC doesn’t even have the ability to

>>>          identify what is considered an abuse.____

>>>

>>>          Therefore the entire policy is out of scope for the RIR

>>>          operation.____

>>>

>>>           ____

>>>

>>>          Regards,____

>>>

>>>           ____

>>>

>>>          Lamiaa____

>>>

>>>           ____

>>>

>>>           ____

>>>

>>>           ____

>>>

>>>           ____

>>>

>>>           ____

>>>

>>>           ____

>>>

>>>           ____

>>>

>>>           ____

>>>

>>>           ____

>>>

>>>          Le jeu. 17 sept. 2020 à 07:42, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via RPD

>>>          <rpd at afrinic.net <mailto:rpd at afrinic.net>> a écrit :____

>>>

>>>              Hi Lucilla,____

>>>

>>>               ____

>>>

>>>              Today we already have mnt-IRT, and everybody who operate

>>>              networks understand what it is an abuse. If you operate

>>>              networks you know that **anything** which is a

>>>              non-authorized use of a network is an abuse.____

>>>

>>>               ____

>>>

>>>              If you send spam, attack networks, try to intrude

>>>              networks, etc., all those are abuse.____

>>>

>>>               ____

>>>

>>>              What the policy ask is to make sure that in AFRINIC

>>>              everybody has an abuse contact (today we have mnt-IRT, but

>>>              is not mandatory, and as a results many African networks

>>>              are filtered because lack of that – and consequently they

>>>              do not respond to abuse cases -, which exist in all the

>>>              other regions of the world).____

>>>

>>>               ____

>>>

>>>              Not having an abuse means more chances of legal actions,

>>>              more cost, for both the victims and the ISPs. Having that

>>>              means that you have more chances to resolve it in

>>>              goodfaith.____

>>>

>>>               ____

>>>

>>>              One of the **most important** Afrinic missions is to have

>>>              accuracy on the database, which includes accuracy on the

>>>              contacts. We are not fulfilling that in this situation.____

>>>

>>>               ____

>>>

>>>              Remember that **all** the other RIRs have already this

>>>              kind of policy. This one is like the one that has been

>>>              implemented in APNIC, and the accuracy of the contacts is

>>>              now 87.5% as reported this month in the last APNIC

>>>              meeting. In that report **none** of the members indicated

>>>              any of the issues that you indicated (didn't happened as

>>>              well in the other regions).____

>>>

>>>               ____

>>>

>>>              You know who is interested in not having abuse contacts?

>>>              Those that use their networks for doing abuse (hijacking,

>>>              spam, DoS, intrusions, etc.).____

>>>

>>>               ____

>>>

>>>              Can you explain if the network that you operate has an

>>>              abuse contact an how if one of your customes is trying to

>>>              penetrate my network or do a DoS, I will be able to

>>>              contact you and if you will do anything or just ignore it?____

>>>

>>>               ____

>>>

>>>              Regards,____

>>>

>>>              Jordi____

>>>

>>>              @jordipalet____

>>>

>>>               ____

>>>

>>>               ____

>>>

>>>               ____

>>>

>>>              El 17/9/20 2:21, "lucilla fornaro"

>>>              <lucillafornarosawamoto at gmail.com

>>>              <mailto:lucillafornarosawamoto at gmail.com>> escribió:____

>>>

>>>               ____

>>>

>>>              Dear all,____

>>>

>>>               ____

>>>

>>>              I have some concerns about the “Abuse Contact Policy”.____

>>>

>>>              First of all, it does not offer a specific and regulated

>>>              description of the term “abuse”  and this opens the door

>>>              to potentially bigger problems: a surplus of reports,

>>>              discrimination/legal issues, and a waste of resources.

>>>              Around the world, we can perceive what abuse is in very

>>>              different ways.____

>>>

>>>               ____

>>>

>>>              Afrinic is not entitled to force members to report abuses

>>>              and most importantly, this proposal does not represent

>>>              Afrinic’s purpose.____

>>>

>>>               ____

>>>

>>>              I, therefore, oppose this policy.____

>>>

>>>               ____

>>>

>>>               ____

>>>

>>>              Thank you,____

>>>

>>>               ____

>>>

>>>              Lucilla ____

>>>

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>>>      Le jeu. 17 sept. 2020 à 15:49, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via RPD

>>>      <rpd at afrinic.net <mailto:rpd at afrinic.net>> a écrit :____

>>>

>>>          Hi Lamiaa,____

>>>

>>>           ____

>>>

>>>          I’ve said this already. This policy doesn’t enforce abuse, it

>>>          enforces that the abuse contact is there, and works.____

>>>

>>>           ____

>>>

>>>          Today AFRINIC is paying for the cost of the abuse handling

>>>          because only a tiny fraction of the members has the abuse

>>>          contacts in place.____

>>>

>>>           ____

>>>

>>>          If the contacts in the RIR database aren’t actual and

>>>          accurate, this is a clear violation of the RSA. So what is

>>>          unacceptable is not having the contacts, not on the other way

>>>          around.____

>>>

>>>           ____

>>>

>>>          Abuse is not defined by the RIRs, everybody knows it and this

>>>          is the reason why NONE of the RIRs have re-defined it, because

>>>          it is already stated in RFC2142. Can you justify why AFRINIC

>>>          is different and need a definition?____

>>>

>>>           ____

>>>

>>>          How you define it in the networks that you operate?____

>>>

>>>           ____

>>>

>>>          Regards,____

>>>

>>>          Jordi____

>>>

>>>          @jordipalet____

>>>

>>>           ____

>>>

>>>           ____

>>>

>>>           ____

>>>

>>>          El 17/9/20 10:49, "Lamiaa Chnayti" <lamiaachnayti at gmail.com

>>>          <mailto:lamiaachnayti at gmail.com>> escribió:____

>>>

>>>           ____

>>>

>>>           ____

>>>

>>>          Hello,____

>>>

>>>           ____

>>>

>>>          I will have to agree with Lucilla on what she said and would

>>>          like to add to it that :____

>>>

>>>          Firstly, Abuse enforcement is out of scope for RIRs.____

>>>

>>>          Secondly, RIRs have no ability to define what is “abuse”, one

>>>          abuse or even criminal activity could be entirely a legal

>>>          operation in a different jurisdiction.____

>>>

>>>          Finally, making a member forcefully reply to abuse contact

>>>          Emails are a waste of resources and totally pointless, it is

>>>          entirely up to the member to define what they think is

>>>          acceptable in their network operation and how they react to

>>>          it. AFRINIC has no mandate to force any member to reply to an

>>>          “abuse”, since AFRINIC doesn’t even have the ability to

>>>          identify what is considered an abuse.____

>>>

>>>          Therefore the entire policy is out of scope for the RIR

>>>          operation.____

>>>

>>>           ____

>>>

>>>          Regards,____

>>>

>>>           ____

>>>

>>>          Lamiaa____

>>>

>>>           ____

>>>

>>>           ____

>>>

>>>           ____

>>>

>>>           ____

>>>

>>>           ____

>>>

>>>           ____

>>>

>>>           ____

>>>

>>>           ____

>>>

>>>           ____

>>>

>>>          Le jeu. 17 sept. 2020 à 07:42, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via RPD

>>>          <rpd at afrinic.net <mailto:rpd at afrinic.net>> a écrit :____

>>>

>>>              Hi Lucilla,____

>>>

>>>               ____

>>>

>>>              Today we already have mnt-IRT, and everybody who operate

>>>              networks understand what it is an abuse. If you operate

>>>              networks you know that **anything** which is a

>>>              non-authorized use of a network is an abuse.____

>>>

>>>               ____

>>>

>>>              If you send spam, attack networks, try to intrude

>>>              networks, etc., all those are abuse.____

>>>

>>>               ____

>>>

>>>              What the policy ask is to make sure that in AFRINIC

>>>              everybody has an abuse contact (today we have mnt-IRT, but

>>>              is not mandatory, and as a results many African networks

>>>              are filtered because lack of that – and consequently they

>>>              do not respond to abuse cases -, which exist in all the

>>>              other regions of the world).____

>>>

>>>               ____

>>>

>>>              Not having an abuse means more chances of legal actions,

>>>              more cost, for both the victims and the ISPs. Having that

>>>              means that you have more chances to resolve it in

>>>              goodfaith.____

>>>

>>>               ____

>>>

>>>              One of the **most important** Afrinic missions is to have

>>>              accuracy on the database, which includes accuracy on the

>>>              contacts. We are not fulfilling that in this situation.____

>>>

>>>               ____

>>>

>>>              Remember that **all** the other RIRs have already this

>>>              kind of policy. This one is like the one that has been

>>>              implemented in APNIC, and the accuracy of the contacts is

>>>              now 87.5% as reported this month in the last APNIC

>>>              meeting. In that report **none** of the members indicated

>>>              any of the issues that you indicated (didn't happened as

>>>              well in the other regions).____

>>>

>>>               ____

>>>

>>>              You know who is interested in not having abuse contacts?

>>>              Those that use their networks for doing abuse (hijacking,

>>>              spam, DoS, intrusions, etc.).____

>>>

>>>               ____

>>>

>>>              Can you explain if the network that you operate has an

>>>              abuse contact an how if one of your customes is trying to

>>>              penetrate my network or do a DoS, I will be able to

>>>              contact you and if you will do anything or just ignore it?____

>>>

>>>               ____

>>>

>>>              Regards,____

>>>

>>>              Jordi____

>>>

>>>              @jordipalet____

>>>

>>>               ____

>>>

>>>               ____

>>>

>>>               ____

>>>

>>>              El 17/9/20 2:21, "lucilla fornaro"

>>>              <lucillafornarosawamoto at gmail.com

>>>              <mailto:lucillafornarosawamoto at gmail.com>> escribió:____

>>>

>>>               ____

>>>

>>>              Dear all,____

>>>

>>>               ____

>>>

>>>              I have some concerns about the “Abuse Contact Policy”.____

>>>

>>>              First of all, it does not offer a specific and regulated

>>>              description of the term “abuse”  and this opens the door

>>>              to potentially bigger problems: a surplus of reports,

>>>              discrimination/legal issues, and a waste of resources.

>>>              Around the world, we can perceive what abuse is in very

>>>              different ways.____

>>>

>>>               ____

>>>

>>>              Afrinic is not entitled to force members to report abuses

>>>              and most importantly, this proposal does not represent

>>>              Afrinic’s purpose.____

>>>

>>>               ____

>>>

>>>              I, therefore, oppose this policy.____

>>>

>>>               ____

>>>

>>>               ____

>>>

>>>              Thank you,____

>>>

>>>               ____

>>>

>>>              Lucilla ____

>>>

>>>              _______________________________________________ RPD

>>>              mailing list RPD at afrinic.net <mailto:RPD at afrinic.net>

>>>              https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd

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>>>

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>>>              even if partially, including attached files, is strictly

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>>>              disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents

>>>              of this information, even if partially, including attached

>>>              files, is strictly prohibited, will be considered a

>>>              criminal offense, so you must reply to the original sender

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>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>          This electronic message contains information which may be

>>>          privileged or confidential. The information is intended to be

>>>          for the exclusive use of the individual(s) named above and

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>>>          distribution or use of the contents of this information, even

>>>          if partially, including attached files, is strictly prohibited

>>>          and will be considered a criminal offense. If you are not the

>>>          intended recipient be aware that any disclosure, copying,

>>>          distribution or use of the contents of this information, even

>>>          if partially, including attached files, is strictly

>>>          prohibited, will be considered a criminal offense, so you must

>>>          reply to the original sender to inform about this

>>>          communication and delete it.

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

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>>>

>>>

>>>

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>>>

>>>      -- ____

>>>

>>>      Lamiaa CHNAYTI____

>>>

>>>      __ __

>>>

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>>>      the exclusive use of the individual(s) named above and further

>>>      non-explicilty authorized disclosure, copying, distribution or use

>>>      of the contents of this information, even if partially, including

>>>      attached files, is strictly prohibited and will be considered a

>>>      criminal offense. If you are not the intended recipient be aware

>>>      that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents

>>>      of this information, even if partially, including attached files,

>>>      is strictly prohibited, will be considered a criminal offense, so

>>>      you must reply to the original sender to inform about this

>>>      communication and delete it.

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