[rpd] IPv4 Inter RIR Resource Transfer (Comprehensive Scope)

[Haruna Umar Adoga]

One of the false arguments (in my opinion) made by the author of the IPv4
Inter-RIR Resource Transfers (Comprehensive Scope) proposal, is that new
businesses are unable to get IP addresses, which is slowing down the growth
of businesses in Africa.
If we can have statistics that supports this claim, it will be helpful, as
I am not convinced that not having this policy is hindering IP assignments
to businesses in our region. I am however not in support of this proposal
in its current draft.

Regards,
Haruna.

On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 11:31 AM Ahile shagba francis <ahilefranc at gmail.com>
wrote:


> Lets  look at it from another point,

> If it is the other region’s policy to be applied when the resources are

> transferred from that region,

>

>  it is then glaring that this could cause many confusions.

> We don't need to support such.

> Let's be guided.

>

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>>    4. Re: RPKI ROAs for Unallocated and Unassigned AFRINIC      Address

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>> Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2020 10:44:20 +0100

>> From: Precious Paul <preciousq43 at gmail.com>

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>> Subject: Re: [rpd] Abuse Contact Policy

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>> As mentioned in the above points the resources poured into this new

>> version

>> of the policy  would most likely lead to a huge waste of resources, which

>> could and should be used at other policies and parts of the organization

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>> Best Regards,

>> Precious Paul.

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>> On Thu, Sep 17, 2020, 1:19 AM lucilla fornaro <

>> lucillafornarosawamoto at gmail.com> wrote:

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>> > Dear all,

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>> > I have some concerns about the ?Abuse Contact Policy?.

>> > First of all, it does not offer a specific and regulated description of

>> > the term ?abuse?  and this opens the door to potentially bigger

>> problems: a

>> > surplus of reports, discrimination/legal issues, and a waste of

>> resources.

>> > Around the world, we can perceive what abuse is in very different ways.

>> >

>> > Afrinic is not entitled to force members to report abuses and most

>> > importantly, this proposal does not represent Afrinic?s purpose.

>> >

>> > I, therefore, oppose this policy.

>> >

>> >

>> > Thank you,

>> >

>> > Lucilla

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>> Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2020 10:51:12 +0100

>> From: "Joshua J. Onuh" <jjamesonuh at gmail.com>

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>> Subject: Re: [rpd] Abuse Contact Policy

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>> The members should already have abuse contact or other ways to work it out

>> if they really need it. So I think it is kind of redundant to have this

>> policy.

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>> On Thu, 17 Sep 2020 at 10:46, Precious Paul <preciousq43 at gmail.com>

>> wrote:

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>> >

>> > As mentioned in the above points the resources poured into this new

>> > version of the policy  would most likely lead to a huge waste of

>> resources,

>> > which could and should be used at other policies and parts of the

>> > organization

>> >

>> > Best Regards,

>> > Precious Paul.

>> >

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>> > On Thu, Sep 17, 2020, 1:19 AM lucilla fornaro <

>> > lucillafornarosawamoto at gmail.com> wrote:

>> >

>> >> Dear all,

>> >>

>> >> I have some concerns about the ?Abuse Contact Policy?.

>> >> First of all, it does not offer a specific and regulated description of

>> >> the term ?abuse?  and this opens the door to potentially bigger

>> problems: a

>> >> surplus of reports, discrimination/legal issues, and a waste of

>> resources.

>> >> Around the world, we can perceive what abuse is in very different ways.

>> >>

>> >> Afrinic is not entitled to force members to report abuses and most

>> >> importantly, this proposal does not represent Afrinic?s purpose.

>> >>

>> >> I, therefore, oppose this policy.

>> >>

>> >>

>> >> Thank you,

>> >>

>> >> Lucilla

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>> Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2020 10:10:13 +0000 (UTC)

>> From: Topsy Bello <topsybello at yahoo.com>

>> To: "rpd >> AfriNIC Resource Policy" <rpd at afrinic.net>,  Ekaterina

>>         Kalugina <kay.k.prof at gmail.com>

>> Subject: Re: [rpd] RPKI ROAs for Unallocated and Unassigned AFRINIC

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>>  Hello

>> the current state of the RPKI infrastructure does not provide a

>> sufficient? period between revocation of ROA and notification that a given

>> prefix has been allocated to an organisation which can have a huge effect

>> on the allocation, i therefore do not agree with this policy

>>

>>     On Wednesday, September 16, 2020, 10:15:01 PM GMT+1, Ekaterina

>> Kalugina <kay.k.prof at gmail.com> wrote:

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>> Dear all,

>>

>> ?

>>

>> I believe this policy would extendAFRINIC's power way beyond its control.

>> AFRINIC is a registration entity andshould not have authority over RPKI.

>> Having such would run the risk of Internetcentralization and undermine the

>> legitimacy of AFRINIC as an impartialinstitution.

>>

>> In addition, currently if there is a registration error, it is just

>> aregistration error. However, if a registration error occurs with RPKI

>> AS0,people will actually lose their connectivity.

>>

>> For these reasons, I oppose this policy.

>>

>> Best wishes,

>>

>> ?

>>

>> Ekaterina Kay Kalugina

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