[rpd] KICKED OUT OF MICROPHONE QUEUE!

[Sami Salih]

Salam,

It is really very difficult for the co-chairs to make everybody happy, time is very limited and it's a finite and scare resource. Limiting the intervention time may give chance for more people to talk, but the idea may need more time to be addressed, taking the system and translation issue, the chairs may decided to give more time for the sake of clearly get the point, equal time is fair but not alway work.
I sugget to utilize the chat, and one of the chairs alway follow the chat and reply or cast the question to the author. In some cases this chair may deised to give the mic for more larification.
So my proposal is not to ask for the mic, but write your thought to the chat and let the chairs manage this. I also ask staff to copy the chat for each session and share it in the rpd, so its become one of the meeting archive.


Sami Salih
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From: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via RPD <rpd at afrinic.net>
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2020 11:14 AM
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Subject: Re: [rpd] KICKED OUT OF MICROPHONE QUEUE!


While I agree that this can be much improved (yesterday before starting, I already asked if we can have an “on screen” timer and the developers confirmed that it is coming), I will suggest that we make as much as we can, use of the chat (so chairs can try to synthetize the issues) and specially the mailing list.



This is also good for the authors to be able to respond even if there is not time. Yesterday I tried as much as possible to keep with the chat for every question, but it is almost impossible for authors vs “many”. That’s why I prefer the mailing list.



This also shows how important is the “Simple PDP Update for the new “Normal”” proposal, because it gives the community 8 weeks to comment on the proposals and not just “until the presentation”, even if the meeting has finish and the chairs 2 weeks to take a decision after that. So if somebody has an objection and he can’t raise in the meeting, he can still do it in the mailing list and the chairs have time to read all the chats and mailing list even if they need several days (remember that this is a voluntary job, they also have their daily job).



And what it is even more important. In order to really take a good decision of if there is consensus or not the chairs need to write down all the for and against and decide if they have been resolved or are mere “personal opinions”.



That’s also needed in case of no-consensus for the authors to understand what they missed and what they may need to change in an new version for achieving consensus, or even consider if some of the objections can’t be accomodated.



Regards,

Jordi

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El 17/9/20 10:07, "Cathie Jay" <cathie.kay89 at gmail.com<mailto:cathie.kay89 at gmail.com>> escribió:



Dear Emem, dear community,



Thank you very much for raising this contentious issue of being retrieved from the queue during yesterday's debate. I would urge the chairs to allocate a time limit for each speaker's slot who are waiting in the queue, as the first code of conduct. The Chairs will then monitor the time during which each speaker will express his/her thoughts about the policy. The chairs could at any time send a kind warning to let the speaker know that he/she will have to wrap up. Good luck to everybody for today's debate.



All best wishes,

Cathie



On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 9:46 PM Emem William <dwizard65 at gmail.com<mailto:dwizard65 at gmail.com>> wrote:

Dear all,



I trust everyone here is doing great.

I want to call the attention of the community to the unfortunate incident that occurred in today's PDWG meeting with regards to the microphone queue.



I noticed that very few speakers were allowed to utilize almost all the duration of the commenting time irrespective of the fact that the microphone queue had  more members, especially during the Policy Compliance Dashboard discussion. I, alongside other participants were constantly removed from the microphone queue and all our efforts to rejoin ended in fiasco, perhaps due to time constraints.



I suggest that the time allocated to each comment on the microphone queue in subsequent meetings should be adjusted with respect to the number of people on the queue so as to give room for atleast 90% of the participants on the queue without encroaching on time allocated for other discussions or presentations.

I would like it if the Co-chairs could do this in the interest of all.



A million thanks.



Regards,
Emem William

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