Search RPD Archives
[rpd] Policy Compliance Dashboard - AFPUB-2020-GEN-001-DRAFT01
Gaby Giner
gabyginernetwork at gmail.com
Thu Sep 10 14:37:43 UTC 2020
Hi Jordi and Sylvain,
Thank you for enlightening me on my concerns about this policy. I did have
my reservations about this policy because I thought it would be redundant,
but upon your explanation and further examination of the links Sylvain has
provided, you are merely strengthening the current system and not creating
double sets of rules that could create confusion.
As I have said, I find it admirable that your policy will provide an
automated alert if ever a member has violated the rules AFRINIC has set in
place. This would lessen the instances where a member could claim ignorance
or forgetfulness when they violate policies.
As for the prescriptiveness of the policy, what I meant was that I agree
with Gregoire when he said "less prescriptive to avoid undue
interpretations", because I do believe that even for any other policy, too
much prescriptiveness is stifling and rather dictatorial. As for my
evaluation of the policy (unless I missed other implications), you have
already answered the prescriptiveness issue via your previous email.
Sincerely, Gabrielle.
On Wed, Sep 9, 2020 at 6:52 PM JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via RPD <rpd at afrinic.net>
wrote:
> Hi Gaby,
>
>
>
> As I just responded in a previous email, the actual RSA is too loose, and
> at the same time too strict. If the staff decides to apply it to the
> letter, they have the right to do so, an unvoluntary mistake will mean your
> account is cancel and resources recovered. I don’t think this could happen
> easily, but we need to make sure it doesn’t happen.
>
>
>
> AFRINIC need also to offer services that help the members, and that
> includes ensuring that they follow the policy changes and get alerted if
> something is not going well for a member. We all know how busy we are with
> daily operations, and yes, following the policy process is your obligation
> but setting automated tools that alert when you missed something is the
> right way to see if a member is a good guy and just did a mistake (we all
> can do it), or it is persistently acting “bad”.
>
>
>
> The proposal is precisely setting better limits for that to work correctly
> in both directions, guiding the staff to ensure the do the right thing with
> bad members and protecting the good members, which the tools to save cost,
> as much as possible, with automation.
>
>
>
> There is not clash created by this proposal is just reinforcing what we
> have and clearly stating how to behave on each direction.
>
>
>
> If you can suggest alternative text, on what do you think is too much
> prescriptive, we will be happy to consider it, of course.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Jordi
>
> @jordipalet
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> El 27/8/20 15:39, "Gaby Giner" <gabyginernetwork at gmail.com> escribió:
>
>
>
> Dear Jordi,
>
>
>
> I think that you have created a policy to police those who are in
> flagrante delicto with their violations, and it is admirable. However, I
> have to support strengthening our current system instead of creating
> another set of rules that are essentially, at its core, identical to what
> the AFRINIC board is doing/should be doing. You have responded to this
> criticism by saying that many members are not following PDP at all, and
> that this dashboard automates notification in case of violations.
>
>
>
> Why not give this power to the staff or board itself? As Mike has said,
> the board currently does not have an operational capacity or role, and it
> is the current role of the staff to do this. Instead of creating another
> whole set of rules, we can just add to the current and working one.
> Furthermore, creating another entire set of policies for this might be
> problematic down the line because it may clash with the original guidelines
> or other related documents. Instead of having ONE governing system where
> AFRINIC’s board and staff are monitoring violations, we would have two
> different policies/procedures that could be conflicting and honestly
> confusing.
>
>
>
> Additionally, I support Gregoire when he said that this policy needs to be
> less prescriptive when it comes to interpretations. Flexibility for
> AFRINIC, especially in exceptionable conditions is essential because we can
> never predict with a 100% accuracy what can happen in the future.
>
>
>
> Thank you.
>
> _______________________________________________ RPD mailing list
> RPD at afrinic.net https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd
>
> **********************************************
> IPv4 is over
> Are you ready for the new Internet ?
> http://www.theipv6company.com
> The IPv6 Company
>
> This electronic message contains information which may be privileged or
> confidential. The information is intended to be for the exclusive use of
> the individual(s) named above and further non-explicilty authorized
> disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this
> information, even if partially, including attached files, is strictly
> prohibited and will be considered a criminal offense. If you are not the
> intended recipient be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or
> use of the contents of this information, even if partially, including
> attached files, is strictly prohibited, will be considered a criminal
> offense, so you must reply to the original sender to inform about this
> communication and delete it.
>
> _______________________________________________
> RPD mailing list
> RPD at afrinic.net
> https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/attachments/20200910/b7f0aae6/attachment-0001.html>
More information about the RPD
mailing list