[rpd] Policy Proposal: PDP Working Group (WG) Guidelines and Procedures

[JORDI PALET MARTINEZ]

I’m convinced, and I hope everyboy will agree, there is a *big* difference in:
A policy proposal about resources, abuse, RPKI, etc., etc. There is a single Internet, even if we split it in 5 RIRs regarding the handling of resources. What we do in RIPE affects folks in all the world, including Africa. What we do in AFRINIC, affects all the world, including Europe. That’s why policies tend to converge, even if there may be slightly differences in cultural or economical aspects, in my opinion those, re-converge with the time.
A policy proposal related to the elections process. Clearly this is more tied to the cultural localities, how people is used to work and relation among them, etc.
A proposal about other aspecs of the PDP modification is probably in the middle. There are aspects that work the same in all the regions, because all them are based in bottom-up, rought consensus and the ICP-2. There may be “corners” which may depend more on cultural aspects.

Nobody tries to be a king. We all try to cooperate in a global Internet and you will never get such kind of comment or ad-hominem that we got in AFRINIC (not just in the mailing list but also in meetings), when you come to a RIPE, ARIN, LACNIC or APNIC meeting or participate in the list. Please participate in all them!

 

And in this specific case, I clearly said, that I will support that election procedure if I can see the actual candidates withdrawing in favor of a single one of them. For that you don’t need the policy change. It can be done right now. Then you can change the policy to do that in a consistent manner in following elections.

 

I hope my position is very clear.

 

Tks

 

Jordi

 

 

El 1/9/20 10:53, "Arnaud AMELINA" <amelnaud at gmail.com> escribió:

 

Hi Daniel

 

Le lun. 31 août 2020 à 12:38, Daniel Yakmut via RPD <rpd at afrinic.net> a écrit :

A quick poser,  are we conscious of our cultural orientation or are we confident that what works in the other registries will work for AfriNIC on all issues.

The matter of election in Africa is generally a sore thump, I was hoping that we will be working towards polishing the current election processes, I as against complicating with another modalities.

 

I am seeing the current attempt, rather distracting. My take will be, we outline clearly the issues with the current election procedures and then fine tune them, taking into consideration our cultural biases. Coping or adopting the procedures of other registries in this case is not feasible.

 

Simply,

Daniel

 

 

Thanks for raising the above point.

 

We keep telling our colleagues from other RIR regions, that while we value their contribution to the community, they should avoid trying to be kings (the know it all) here in our region and always imposing stuff on us, since we know better the environment and the needs.

 

Those who are constantly trying to solve our challenges their ways are the 1st ones to say... “ I proposed the same policy in other regions and it reached consensus in X and Y region”. 

And later on, they say, this works in X or Y region but can’t work in Africa. Can you imagine this level of deeming.

 

As for the elections process, I recall and the videos are available on how people clap for you when you commented on how problematic, the proposed online voting can be in Africa.  That model seems to be the other alternative  you have on the table. 

 

Thanks 

 

Arnaud 

 

 

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