[rpd] Co-Chair Election Process

[Fernando Frediani]

Hello Daniel

Thanks for putting a resume. So to add up I have the following:

1 - Section 3.3 of the PDP it says: "/The PDWG Chairs are chosen by the 
AFRINIC community during the Public Policy Meeting and serve staggered 
two-year terms/". The Public Policy Meeting will be held online. It also 
says: "/Anyone present at the meeting, whether in person *or by remote 
participation*, may participate in the selection process for a temporary 
Chair./"

2 - Who can be present at this meeting ? Only those present (therefore 
registered) to participate, not all registered in this email list.

3 - The choosing of the e-voting system is a AfriNic staff task and 
there are different system already used for the very same proposes as 
for example the LACNIC's one. It must be a system that allow people to 
verify their vote was cast correctly and be fully auditable.

4 - In order to either choose another Co-Chair or to extend the current 
one term there must be a vote with raise of hands. There is no other way 
out of the PDP this can be done.

Regards
Fernando

On 20/07/2020 03:06, Daniel Yakmut wrote:
> Dear All,
>
> We arrive at the airport and I will be turning the simple matter 
> placed on the table into a circus. The simple matter was:
>
> 1. We will have AIS 2020 online and in September.
> 2. A Co-chair's  tenure has already ended. So an electronic election 
> is being proposed as part of the AIS 2020 Agenda. The question is, is 
> this possible?
> 3. It is a fact that the Co-chair is currently serving within an 
> extended period.
> 4. We now agree that the introduction of e-voting is inevitable, as 
> demonstrated by the pandemic.
>
> However it is clear that
> 1. We are going to have an online meeting , as nobody has disagreed to 
> that.
> 2. There is a strong advocacy, for a process to include e-voting in 
> the Region, but the timing is short. Therefore we need to commence the 
> plan of creating an enabling atmosphere to integrate e-voting.
> 3. We need to ratify the extended period for a co-chair tentatively 
> for 12months. Which he has spent a month or so already.
> 4. Ensure we have an acceptable e-voting system ready for the next 
> date of election.
> 5. Let agreed clearly on this simple issue and prepare for the coming 
> meeting.
>
> Simply
> Daniel
>
> On Jul 19, 2020 11:20 PM, "Fernando Frediani" <fhfrediani at gmail.com 
> <mailto:fhfrediani at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     I have read this message and several questions come to mind as for
>     example:
>
>     - What basis was used to say "it was overwhelmingly" rejected ?
>
>     - Who actuallty represents the "current" community to state it was
>     "totally rejected" ?
>
>     - Whats basis was used to say that it would not work in the region
>     if that works in several other places and RIRs including, with
>     auditable systems ?
>
>     - Whats basis is used to say rhe community that voted for the
>     current Co-Chair in Kampla has the same confidence in him and that
>     he would win ? It seems more a personal wish than anything based
>     on fact or logic.
>
>     - Even in order to extend the current Co-Chair term the PDP MUST
>     be followed and there are no other ways written there other than
>     another vote. Otherwise how can this be done ?
>
>     Fernando
>
>
>     On Sun, 19 Jul 2020, 18:08 Emem William, <dwizard65 at gmail.com
>     <mailto:dwizard65 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>         Dear All,
>
>         I can  recollect that a similar proposal was proposed as a
>         policy and it was overwhelmingly rejected in Angola. The
>         current community totally rejected the policy no one except
>         the authors supported the idea because we know it can't work
>         in this region. Using online voting now would be like passing
>         the policy using the backdoor. Am sure Jordie would like this
>         idea and hence his enthusiasm. However my candid opinion is
>         that we can't do this. The most appropriate way forward is to
>         allow the Co chair who has been doing a fantastic job to
>         continue for another 12 months or till the next face to face
>         meeting. The community that voted him in Kampala still have
>         confidence in him. In any case even with an online election he
>         would still likely win but I don't want polices to be passed
>         through the back door. Therefore I think the most appropriate
>         way for this has been suggested as an extension for the
>         co-chair who's seat would have been contested.
>
>         Cheers.
>
>         Emem E. William
>
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