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[rpd] Co-Chair Election Process

Owen DeLong owen at delong.com
Mon Jul 20 01:20:25 UTC 2020


By all means, let’s get everyone together the same way and have them vote on whether or not to vote this way as a test. ;-)

Owen



> On Jul 19, 2020, at 4:35 PM, Murungi Daniel <dmurungi at wia.co.tz> wrote:

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> Dear Fernando,

>

> +1.

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> @dwizard65 at gmail.com <mailto:dwizard65 at gmail.com> and others attempt to speak for the community at large with disregard for consent, fact, or logic.

>

> At this point, am reminded of weddings!

>

> They are complex affairs with inputs and outputs from multiple parties and many unknown variables( party crashers, lazy suppliers, weather, runaway bride/groom, … ). One tried and tested technique to ensure that all goes as expected on the final day is rehearsals.

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> Other RIRs have succeeded with the proposed tools and techniques. At the very least, we owe it to ourselves to try.

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> Can we consider the possibility of a 'rehearsal vote’ using the proposed electronic tools ?

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>

>

> Regards,

> Daniel

>

>

>> On Jul 20, 2020, at 1:17 AM, Fernando Frediani <fhfrediani at gmail.com <mailto:fhfrediani at gmail.com>> wrote:

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>> I have read this message and several questions come to mind as for example:

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>> - What basis was used to say "it was overwhelmingly" rejected ?

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>> - Who actuallty represents the "current" community to state it was "totally rejected" ?

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>> - Whats basis was used to say that it would not work in the region if that works in several other places and RIRs including, with auditable systems ?

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>> - Whats basis is used to say rhe community that voted for the current Co-Chair in Kampla has the same confidence in him and that he would win ? It seems more a personal wish than anything based on fact or logic.

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>> - Even in order to extend the current Co-Chair term the PDP MUST be followed and there are no other ways written there other than another vote. Otherwise how can this be done ?

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>> Fernando

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>> On Sun, 19 Jul 2020, 18:08 Emem William, <dwizard65 at gmail.com <mailto:dwizard65 at gmail.com>> wrote:

>> Dear All,

>>

>> I can recollect that a similar proposal was proposed as a policy and it was overwhelmingly rejected in Angola. The current community totally rejected the policy no one except the authors supported the idea because we know it can't work in this region. Using online voting now would be like passing the policy using the backdoor. Am sure Jordie would like this idea and hence his enthusiasm. However my candid opinion is that we can't do this. The most appropriate way forward is to allow the Co chair who has been doing a fantastic job to continue for another 12 months or till the next face to face meeting. The community that voted him in Kampala still have confidence in him. In any case even with an online election he would still likely win but I don't want polices to be passed through the back door. Therefore I think the most appropriate way for this has been suggested as an extension for the co-chair who's seat would have been contested.

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>> Cheers.

>>

>> Emem E. William

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