[rpd] RPD Digest, Vol 166, Issue 54

[BINEMO SHADIMIADI Jean Guelord]

Je soutiens ma proposition et continue faire voir à tout le monde que :
lorsqu'une activité de grande envergure s'organise dans un État: amené
beaucoup d'opportunités et résout aussi beaucoup des problèmes du secteur
comme il s'agit de l'internet.
Je crois que vous avez bien compris mon constat qui est précis et clair.
 Nous sommes dans le cas exceptionnel que je considère comme cas de force
majeure, alors que le statut Afrinic reste muet pour la situation actuelle.
Ce le pourquoi nous disons non à la réunion et l'élection en ligne qui ne
peut pas être essayer pendant le tour de la  RDC.
Comme quelques gens persiste avec la chose que la majorité ne veux pas,
nous risquerons d'unitier une pétition.
Mais cela ne pas une solution pour le cas actuel. Nous attendons seulement
le constat de cas de force majeure et la réunion reste en RDC jusqu'à
présent et le coprésident actuel reste en fonction jusqu'à l'installation
du nouveau coprésident élue. Nous vous demandons de rejoindre la voix de la
raison.
Bonne journée.

Le lun. 20 juil. 2020 à 01:35, <rpd-request at afrinic.net> a écrit :


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>    1. Co-Chair Election Process (Emem William)

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>    3. Re: Co-Chair Election Process (Murungi Daniel)

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> Message: 1

> Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2020 22:08:07 +0100

> From: Emem William <dwizard65 at gmail.com>

> To: "rpd >> AfriNIC Resource Policy" <rpd at afrinic.net>

> Subject: [rpd] Co-Chair Election Process

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> Dear All,

>

> I can  recollect that a similar proposal was proposed as a policy and it

> was overwhelmingly rejected in Angola. The current community totally

> rejected the policy no one except the authors supported the idea because we

> know it can't work in this region. Using online voting now would be like

> passing the policy using the backdoor. Am sure Jordie would like this idea

> and hence his enthusiasm. However my candid opinion is that we can't do

> this. The most appropriate way forward is to allow the Co chair who has

> been doing a fantastic job to continue for another 12 months or till the

> next face to face meeting. The community that voted him in Kampala still

> have confidence in him. In any case even with an online election he would

> still likely win but I don't want polices to be passed through the back

> door. Therefore I think the most appropriate way for this has been

> suggested as an extension for the co-chair who's seat would have been

> contested.

>

> Cheers.

>

> Emem E. William

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> Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2020 19:17:42 -0300

> From: Fernando Frediani <fhfrediani at gmail.com>

> To: rpd at afrinic.net

> Subject: Re: [rpd] Co-Chair Election Process

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> I have read this message and several questions come to mind as for example:

>

> - What basis was used to say "it was overwhelmingly" rejected ?

>

> - Who actuallty represents the "current" community to state it was "totally

> rejected" ?

>

> - Whats basis was used to say that it would not work in the region if that

> works in several other places and RIRs including, with auditable systems ?

>

> - Whats basis is used to say rhe community that voted for the current

> Co-Chair in Kampla has the same confidence in him and that he would win ?

> It seems more a personal wish than anything based on fact or logic.

>

> - Even in order to extend the current Co-Chair term the PDP MUST be

> followed and there are no other ways written there other than another vote.

> Otherwise how can this be done ?

>

> Fernando

>

>

> On Sun, 19 Jul 2020, 18:08 Emem William, <dwizard65 at gmail.com> wrote:

>

> > Dear All,

> >

> > I can  recollect that a similar proposal was proposed as a policy and it

> > was overwhelmingly rejected in Angola. The current community totally

> > rejected the policy no one except the authors supported the idea because

> we

> > know it can't work in this region. Using online voting now would be like

> > passing the policy using the backdoor. Am sure Jordie would like this

> idea

> > and hence his enthusiasm. However my candid opinion is that we can't do

> > this. The most appropriate way forward is to allow the Co chair who has

> > been doing a fantastic job to continue for another 12 months or till the

> > next face to face meeting. The community that voted him in Kampala still

> > have confidence in him. In any case even with an online election he would

> > still likely win but I don't want polices to be passed through the back

> > door. Therefore I think the most appropriate way for this has been

> > suggested as an extension for the co-chair who's seat would have been

> > contested.

> >

> > Cheers.

> >

> > Emem E. William

> >

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> Message: 3

> Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2020 02:35:00 +0300

> From: Murungi Daniel <dmurungi at wia.co.tz>

> To: Fernando Frediani <fhfrediani at gmail.com>

> Cc: rpd at afrinic.net

> Subject: Re: [rpd] Co-Chair Election Process

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> Dear Fernando,

>

> +1.

>

> @dwizard65 at gmail.com <mailto:dwizard65 at gmail.com> and others attempt to

> speak for the community at large with disregard for consent, fact, or logic.

>

> At this point, am reminded of weddings!

>

> They are complex affairs with inputs and outputs from multiple parties and

> many unknown variables( party crashers, lazy suppliers, weather, runaway

> bride/groom,  ? ). One tried and tested technique to ensure that all goes

> as expected on the final day is rehearsals.

>

> Other RIRs have succeeded with the proposed tools and techniques. At the

> very least, we owe it to ourselves to try.

>

> Can we consider the possibility of a 'rehearsal vote? using the proposed

> electronic tools ?

>

>

>

> Regards,

> Daniel

>

>

> > On Jul 20, 2020, at 1:17 AM, Fernando Frediani <fhfrediani at gmail.com>

> wrote:

> >

> > I have read this message and several questions come to mind as for

> example:

> >

> > - What basis was used to say "it was overwhelmingly" rejected ?

> >

> > - Who actuallty represents the "current" community to state it was

> "totally rejected" ?

> >

> > - Whats basis was used to say that it would not work in the region if

> that works in several other places and RIRs including, with auditable

> systems ?

> >

> > - Whats basis is used to say rhe community that voted for the current

> Co-Chair in Kampla has the same confidence in him and that he would win ?

> It seems more a personal wish than anything based on fact or logic.

> >

> > - Even in order to extend the current Co-Chair term the PDP MUST be

> followed and there are no other ways written there other than another vote.

> Otherwise how can this be done ?

> >

> > Fernando

> >

> >

> > On Sun, 19 Jul 2020, 18:08 Emem William, <dwizard65 at gmail.com <mailto:

> dwizard65 at gmail.com>> wrote:

> > Dear All,

> >

> > I can  recollect that a similar proposal was proposed as a policy and it

> was overwhelmingly rejected in Angola. The current community totally

> rejected the policy no one except the authors supported the idea because we

> know it can't work in this region. Using online voting now would be like

> passing the policy using the backdoor. Am sure Jordie would like this idea

> and hence his enthusiasm. However my candid opinion is that we can't do

> this. The most appropriate way forward is to allow the Co chair who has

> been doing a fantastic job to continue for another 12 months or till the

> next face to face meeting. The community that voted him in Kampala still

> have confidence in him. In any case even with an online election he would

> still likely win but I don't want polices to be passed through the back

> door. Therefore I think the most appropriate way for this has been

> suggested as an extension for the co-chair who's seat would have been

> contested.

> >

> > Cheers.

> >

> > Emem E. William

> >

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