[rpd] PDP issues because the lack of the confirmation of dates for the new PPM

[Fernando Frediani]

Hello Abdulkarim

Please let all us know which exact words Jordi used on his message that 
violated the code of conduct so we can all be aware and avoid it in 
future messages.

Best regards
Fernando

On 07/05/2020 10:58, ABDULKARIM AYOPO OLOYEDE wrote:

> Dear Jordi

> You have raised some critical question for us all to think about I am 

> sure you do not expect a stright forward response to your questions as 

> you know Africa is different from Latin America in a lot of ways.

>    Secondly, in your last email, you used some words that are not 

> acceptable.  We (Co-chairs) are sure that you are aware of the code of 

> conduct concerning the use of such statements on the PDWG making list 

> or during the Policy meeting.  Such statements are unacceptable, and 

> this is a formal warning that you should refrain from the use of such 

> words. We understand that you are not satisfied with the appeal, but 

> there are ways in which this can be resolved. As far as we Co-chairs 

> are concerned the ruling of the appeal committe means that our 

> decision was upheld, meaning the policy proposal goes back to the 

> discussion stage. This should not result in you using unacceptable 

> language; rather, you should put your energy into convincing the 

> community about the policy during the next Policy meeting.

> Please be warned.

> Thank you

>

> Co-Chair

> PDWG

>

>

> On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 8:59 AM JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via RPD 

> <rpd at afrinic.net <mailto:rpd at afrinic.net>> wrote:

>

>     Hi all,

>

>     Because the dates of the next Public Policy Meeting (PPM) are

>     unknown, there is a problem with the PDP in several aspects:

>

>     1) Deadlines for new policy proposals are unknown.

>     2) Deadlines for new versions of existing policy proposals are

>     unknown.

>     3) Co-chair elections timing is unknown.

>

>     Further to that, the lack of response on the board and the

>     co-chairs, regarding the criminal appeal comitte agression to the

>     PDP discriminating authors of proposals by not allowing them to be

>     part of the community for an appeal as indicated in 3.5.1 of the

>     CPM, also creates an additional trouble. We are in a limbo state

>     with this proposal. Should we accept the aggression to the PDP and

>     send the existing text again? On what timing basis? Should we ask

>     the co-chairs to make sure that the PDP is respected? Should the

>     board take an action on that?

>

>     It is a must to know *NOW* (already too close to the 4 weeks

>     deadline) if we are going to hold a on-line PPM in the same dates

>     as originally scheduled, or what is the new date, or if we will

>     just have one meeting this year, with the same dates as already

>     scheduled?

>

>     The Covid-19 is affecting everyone, and it is very sad, but most

>     of our work is done ir can be done remotelly. There are no excuses

>     to avoid continuing doing our work, but we need to get an *urgent*

>     confirmation from the co-chairs and board about all the matters

>     I've indicated above.

>

>     As a side note, all the other RIRs (and the IETF and ICANN already

>     did) are doing the meetings on-line. In fact, today we have the

>     equivalent to the PPM for LACNIC. The only issue is a reduced

>     agenda, so only 3 policy proposals are being discussed, and still

>     there will be consensus determination for them.

>

>     By the way if you're interested to participate in the LACNIC,

>     there is simultaneous english/portuguess/spanish transcription and

>     anyone can participate:

>     https://www.lacnic.net/4191/56/evento/welcome-to-lacnic-33-online.

>     The agenda of the PPM is here:

>     https://www.lacnic.net/4487/56/evento/open-policy-forum.

>

>

>     Regards,

>     Jordi

>     @jordipalet

>

>

>

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