[rpd] RPD Digest, Vol 162, Issue 23

[BINEMO SHADIMIADI Jean Guelord]

nous somme dans un monde scientifique et nous devons avancer , dire
que les un travail pour l’intérêt de l’Afrique et les autres non, nous
allons pas avancer
je pose la question à tout le monde qui est celui qui peut avoir une
opportunité et le refuser parce qu’il défend l’intérêt de l'Afrique?
voila notre position:
après L'AIS à Kinshasa, que toute le structures ou Afrinic propose une
politique standard pour le recrutement de participant;
Que ceux qui pense que nous devons travailler pour l'Afrique démontre
une méthodologie
 claire et simple pour l’intérêt de tous

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>    1. Re: IOF (Daniel Yakmut)

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> Message: 1

> Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2020 14:19:56 +0100

> From: Daniel Yakmut <yakmutd at googlemail.com>

> To: Blaise Fyama <bfyama at gmail.com>

> Cc: "rpd >> AfriNIC Resource Policy" <rpd at afrinic.net>

> Subject: Re: [rpd] IOF

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> To conclude this matter whether Larus Foundation has interested party

> behind is not strange. I know as fact that all foundations have interested

> parties funding their activities.

>

> Take Bill Gates Foundation for example, they give all sorts of support

> though they did no say we must all use or buy Microsoft products. However,

> I know that there is something for Microsoft Corporation in all of it.

>

> Therefore, if the funders behind Larus Foundation are benefitting from the

> resources of Africa. They should also do some CSR, and in return they their

> interest will be projected and possibly protected.

>

> So, I think Larus Foundation is doing the usual. As simularly advocated by

> my friends.

>

> Simply

>

> Daniel

> On Fri, Mar 6, 2020, 10:00 Blaise Fyama <bfyama at gmail.com> wrote:

>

>> Salut Taiwo,

>>

>> Il est vrai que les discussions sur "Qui prot?gent les int?r?ts des

>> africains" commencent ? friser le ridicule et ressemble de plus en plus ?

>> un ballet d'hypocrites... En effet nous connaissons bien entre africains

>> et

>> personne ici n'a le monopole du souci de l'Afrique tout le monde est

>> Arficain au m?me titre. Dans ce d?bat on peut ressentir une certaine

>> lutte

>> entre la vielle garde et un nouveau vent ?mergeant dans la communaut?

>> AFRINIC. Beaucoup de questions en effet peuvent ?tre pos?es sur la

>> mani?re

>> dont les africains choisissent d'autres africains pour assister ? des

>> sommets ou travaux, parfois les choix sont simplement

>> tribalo-ethnico-claniques ou alors des membres de famille(qu'on se le

>> dise!) et certains "prot?g?s" qui sont conformes aux int?r?ts des uns et

>> des autres. Arr?tons de nous intimider les uns les autres par des biais ?

>> peine voil?s... Tous les syst?mes de choix des boursiers sont

>> critiquables.

>> Aue chacun de nous ait l?honn?tet? de le reconna?tre.

>>

>> J'ai dit...

>>

>> Hi Taiwo,

>> It is true that the discussions on "Who protect the interests of

>> Africans"

>> begin to border on the ridiculous and more and more looks like a ballet

>> of

>> hypocrites ... Indeed we know well between Africans and nobody here has

>> the

>> monopoly for the sake of Africa everyone is Arficain in the same way. In

>> this debate we can feel a certain struggle between the old guard and a

>> new

>> wind emerging in the AFRINIC community. Many questions can indeed be

>> asked

>> about how Africans choose other Africans to attend summits or work,

>> sometimes the choices are simply tribalo-ethnico-clanic or family members

>> (let it be said) !) and certain "prot?g?s" who are in accordance with

>> each

>> other's interests. Let us stop intimidating each other with barely veiled

>> biases ... All the systems for choosing scholarship holders are open to

>> criticism. May each of us be honest enough to recognize this.

>> I said...

>>

>>

>>                      Blaise FYAMA

>> Msc, PhD.

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>>

>> Le mar. 3 mars 2020 ? 18:43, Taiwo Oyewande <taiwo.oyewande88 at gmail.com>

>> a ?crit :

>>

>>>

>>> If we want to talk about organisations being partial then let us talk

>>> about partiality in all its aspects and by including all the parties

>>> involved and not focus on one party.

>>>

>>> As I have stated severally, there is absolutely nothing wrong with an

>>> organization sponsoring specific people they think are the best to

>>> represent their interests. This is what fellowships are for in the first

>>> place, Look it up.. This is how everything works in the world,

>>> regardless of the field. partiality is an essential part of fellowships,

>>> whether it?s direct or indirect.

>>>

>>> Now that we cleared that out for probably the hundredth time, let us

>>> take

>>> the IOF as an example of many. Let me quote from the IOF website : ?IOF

>>> organises political activities and actions of multilateral cooperation

>>> that

>>> benefit French-speaking populations.? The organization is literally

>>> letting

>>> you know that they only spend money on a specific small group of people

>>> that benefits another small group. We are talking about Africans

>>> discriminating Africans, their own people. And this is not yet the funny

>>> part because what?s really laughable is that the IOF is only sponsoring

>>> Africans based on a spoken language that is not originally theirs in the

>>> first place and discriminates against people of other languages. That is

>>> the bigger picture my friends. So let?s be real for a second and ask

>>> ourselves who is really working against the African Community and

>>> dividing the unity as seen in recent weeks.

>>>

>>> I would really understand if this whole matter started as an innocent

>>> question from someone from the community that is trying to have answers

>>> to

>>> his questions or that simply doesn?t agree with something, but people

>>> that

>>> started this have obviously personal interests and motives that do not

>>> represent the African community as a whole but rather their own as

>>> individuals or groups. And we are sick and tired of us Africans being

>>> played like that. Let?s focus on what really matters to the community

>>> because there is definitely a lot we can be productive about and help

>>> our

>>> dear continent that is suffering.

>>>

>>>

>>> Kind regards

>>> Taiwo

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> Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2020 15:46:27 +0200

> From: Mike Silber <silber.mike at gmail.com>

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> Subject: [rpd] Travel funding for AfriNIC meetings

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> Let me start off by indicating again that I do not believe this is an

> appropriate topic for the rpd list - unless and until someone proposes a

> policy regarding funding (which IMO will be out of bounds of the PDP). This

> is a community or members list issue.

>

> If I can summarise:

>

> - many people get funding to attend meetings, some from their employers,

> some from AfriNIC (excluding employees) and some from various funding

> institutions;

> - when travel costs are paid by an employer, we accept that the attendee

> will consider the impact on the employer before engaging in discussions

> (even if the views are their own). AfriNIC funded attendees (other than

> employees) are expected to follow their own views - whether we agree with

> them or not. We are unsure whether attendees sponsored by an opaque funding

> institution may have been indoctrinated to follow a particular view.

>

> The conclusion drawn by some is that attendees sponsored by an opaque

> funding institution have been indoctrinated and this somehow corrupts the

> policy development process.

>

> Outside of that there has been mudslinging against various institutions and

> various people, indicating yet again that our community is divided.

>

> In my view, the issue is not funding, or stacking the room or indoctrination

> or training - it is about TRUST. In a community where few trust each other,

> then the only option to improve trust is transparency.

>

> Transparency will allow us to leap to conclusions based on affiliation -

> without considering the argue. However, that seems to be the preferred mode

> of operation in this community, so who am I to judge.

>

> In my view transparency can be achieved in two ways: (i) the publication of

> a statement of interest, setting out organisational affiliations, such as

> employer or clients of a consultant (and confirming that the person is a

> real human and not a sock puppet) *before* participating in the rpd list;

> and (ii) when at a meeting, participants must introduce themselves and

> indicate their organisational affiliation *as well as anyone funding their

> travel* if not their organisation. For example - my name is John, I work at

> XYZ ISP and I am an AfriNIC funded fellow.

>

> I think those two simple approaches are basic etiquette and can be included

> in the Code of Conduct. I also think AfriNIC can create a ?statement of

> interest? database with minimal effort (and no personal identifying

> information).

>

> If this is followed, aside for possible reporting of violations of the Code

> of Conduct, we can remove this inane and pointless discussion from the rpd

> list.

>

> Mike

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