[rpd] Larus Foundation and Afrinic PDP

[Kakel Mbumb]

Je pense que les attaques contre Larus poussent aux questionnements. Ce
n'est pas une chose rare pour une organisation de sponsoriser des personnes
pour des réunions - l'OIF déclare ouvertement que «les OIF organisent des
activités politiques et des actions de coopération multilatérale qui sont
au profit des populations francophones. Ses actions respectent la diversité
culturelle et linguistique et servent à promouvoir la langue française, la
paix et le développement durable »sur leur site officiel.

Étant moi-même de langue maternelle française, je pense qu'il est plutôt
hypocrite que certains accusent Larus d'être partielle tout en n'évoquant
rien des OIF et d'autres organisations similaires qui sont également
formées, comme elles le disent, au profit des populations francophones
uniquement.

Nous savons tous que les OIF utilisent l'argent depuis des années pour
amener les gens à parler en sa faveur. Je ne porte pas de jugement et c'est
un fait bien connu. Je pense que c'est normal car les OIF représentent
l'intérêt de la population francophone. Larus est peut-être à certains yeux
partielle . Mais il me semble que c'est objectif.

Je pense simplement qu'il n'est pas juste pour nous de dire que Larus est
partielle - il est inévitable pour l'organisation de représenter l'intérêt
de certains groupes de personnes, mais elle doit, dans l'ensemble, rester
juste et objective. Je pense que Larus fait ça.

Internet est une société ouverte - et j'exhorte tous à être non seulement
ouverts, mais aussi à être justes lorsqu'il s'agit de juger un parti en
particulier.

Cordialement.

Le dim. 1 mars 2020 à 04:08, <rpd-request at afrinic.net> a écrit :


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> Date: Sat, 29 Feb 2020 16:17:08 +0000

> From: "Marcus K. G. Adomey" <madomey at hotmail.com>

> To: Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com>

> Cc: AfriNIC Resource Policy Discussion List <rpd at afrinic.net>

> Subject: Re: [rpd] Larus foundation and Afrinic PDP

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> Hi Owen,

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> You wrote

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> "I am confused? The entire purpose of this list is for us to discuss and

> attempt to influence people?s opinions about policies. The only way we can

> ever come to consensus is by influencing people?s opinions through

> discussion."

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> Confused with all which has been said on this thread?

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> Can you please respond to the question in the message [1] It will help us

> move on.

>

> Thanks

>

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>

> Marcus

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> [1] https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/2020/010501.html

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> From: Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com>

> Sent: Monday, February 24, 2020 12:50 AM

> To: Marcus K. G. Adomey <madomey at hotmail.com>

> Cc: Noah <noah at neo.co.tz>; AfriNIC Resource Policy Discussion List <

> rpd at afrinic.net>

> Subject: Re: [rpd] Larus foundation and Afrinic PDP

>

> > Lastly, I thought the abuse of the PDP exposed and discussed here is

> about a  certain company influencing people views and  opinions in a PDP,

> where contributions are from individuals and views and opinions are only

> theirs.

>

> I am confused? The entire purpose of this list is for us to discuss and

> attempt to influence people?s opinions about policies. The only way we can

> ever come to consensus is by influencing people?s opinions through

> discussion.

>

> That is the PDP, not an abuse of the PDP. Please explain the abuse to me.

>

> Owen

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> Date: Sat, 29 Feb 2020 19:08:10 -0800

> From: Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com>

> To: "Marcus K. G. Adomey" <madomey at hotmail.com>

> Cc: AfriNIC Resource Policy Discussion List <rpd at afrinic.net>

> Subject: Re: [rpd] Larus foundation and Afrinic PDP

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> Confused by your statement that ?attempting to influence people?s opinions

> about policies is an abuse of the PDP.?

>

> As to my opinion of Jordi?s proposal, I think some portions of it have

> merit, but the devil is in the details. I have no interest in engaging in a

> public discussion of the finer points on this mater, however, as I have no

> real dog in that fight. I do not believe that Jordi?s proposal would

> increase transparency or significantly improve the quality of our

> fellowship program.

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> Owen

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> > On Feb 29, 2020, at 08:17 , Marcus K. G. Adomey <madomey at hotmail.com>

> wrote:

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> > Hi Owen,

> >

> > You wrote

> >

> > "I am confused? The entire purpose of this list is for us to discuss and

> attempt to influence people?s opinions about policies. The only way we can

> ever come to consensus is by influencing people?s opinions through

> discussion."

> >

> >

> > Confused with all which has been said on this thread?

> >

> > Can you please respond to the question in the message [1] It will help

> us move on.

> >

> > Thanks

> >

> >

> >

> > Marcus

> >

> > [1] https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/2020/010501.html <

> https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/2020/010501.html>

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> > From: Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com>

> > Sent: Monday, February 24, 2020 12:50 AM

> > To: Marcus K. G. Adomey <madomey at hotmail.com>

> > Cc: Noah <noah at neo.co.tz>; AfriNIC Resource Policy Discussion List <

> rpd at afrinic.net>

> > Subject: Re: [rpd] Larus foundation and Afrinic PDP

> >

> > > Lastly, I thought the abuse of the PDP exposed and discussed here is

> about a  certain company influencing people views and  opinions in a PDP,

> where contributions are from individuals and views and opinions are only

> theirs.

> >

> > I am confused? The entire purpose of this list is for us to discuss and

> attempt to influence people?s opinions about policies. The only way we can

> ever come to consensus is by influencing people?s opinions through

> discussion.

> >

> > That is the PDP, not an abuse of the PDP. Please explain the abuse to me.

> >

> > Owen

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