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innocent adriko jazinnoadriko at gmail.com
Sat Feb 15 11:44:28 UTC 2020


I actually intended to apply for the larus fellowship, but after seeing
their terms and conditions, the same questions came to my mind and i gave
up. Views especially during PDP do not have to be influenced by any factor
at all, therefore i can not afford to compromise my integrity. Larus
therefore should restate their terms and conditions.

Innocent Adriko

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> Message: 1

> Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2020 20:50:42 +0000

> From: "Marcus K. G. Adomey" <madomey at hotmail.com>

> To: Arnaud AMELINA <amelnaud at gmail.com>, AfriNIC Resource Policy

> Discussion List <rpd at afrinic.net>

> Subject: Re: [rpd] Larus foundation and Afrinic PDP

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> Dear Community,

>

> It looks bizarre that the questions asked here got no responses so far. I

> do hope the Larus Foundation will provide them soon to enlighten this

> community.

>

>

> Marcus

>

> Sent from Outlook Mobile<https://aka.ms/blhgte>

> ________________________________

> From: Arnaud AMELINA <amelnaud at gmail.com>

> Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2020 12:21:14 PM

> To: rpd >> AfriNIC Resource Policy <rpd at afrinic.net>

> Subject: [rpd] Larus foundation and Afrinic PDP

>

> Dear community,

>

> You may remember the recent discussions about Larus Foundation

> fellowship in respect to educational documents provided to fellows as

> meeting background material(*) and which intended to condition their views

> on proposals and their contributions at the PPM and after..

>

> https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/2019/009734.html

>

> I came across the actual agreement which defines the terms and conditions

> under which the fellowship program work.

>

> The agreement signed by each fellow stipulated the followings:

>

> Page 1

> Larus Foundation obligations to offer the fellowship program and payments

> are subject to terms and conditions and *fellow performance*

>

> Page 2

> Fellow is expected to meaningfully participate in the meeting, not just

> sit in the meeting room. This can include voicing opinions, responding to

> comments, participate in Hallway conversations.....

>

>

> Page 5

> Upon fellow completion of the fellowship program at Larus foundation

> satisfaction... Larus will offer stipends... the final decision for the

> disbursement of the stipends is subject to Larus?s sole discretion...

>

> Value of the stipend: There are two parts that form the total value of the

> stipend as the followings:

> First part(advanced payment): in the form of airfare, hotel, other

> transportation costs for the meeting paid up front by Larus.

>

> The second part: the remainder will be paid after the meeting... the value

> is in the range of 0 to 500$. Stipend payment is contingent to fellow

> attendance and participation and conformance to the fellowship terms and

> conditions herein....

>

> Larus judgment on fellow participation will be final and binding to the

> parties

>

> At Larus sole discretion, in the event that fellow fails to actively

> participate in fellowship program and in the meeting or violate this terms

> and conditions, the stipend will not be offered. In addition, Larus is

> entitled to seek indemnify for all costs pay up front by Larus and any

> cost associated to the collection of such compensation, including but not

> limited to court costs, collection costs and attorney.

> =====

>

> The following questions come to mind:

>

> 1- From the educational material given to fellows which is purely based

> on Larus views on each proposals, positions to defend, what are the

> objectives set for each policy meeting and how are the objectives aligned

> with the general community interest?

>

> 2- Would Larus assume under these terms and conditions that opinions

> expressed by fellows during policy meetings are Larus opinions and do not

> represent fellow individual opinions?

>

> 3- how is fellow performance measured as it is at Larus sole discretion?

> What are the metrics and values used to determine the performance level?

>

> 4-how is the reward (0 to 500$) applied based on the fellow performance?

>

> Regards

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> Message: 2

> Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2020 13:13:19 -0800

> From: Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com>

> To: "Marcus K. G. Adomey" <madomey at hotmail.com>

> Cc: AfriNIC Resource Policy Discussion List <rpd at afrinic.net>

> Subject: Re: [rpd] Larus foundation and Afrinic PDP

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> I can?t speak for the foundation, but my best guess is they chose not to

> engage to avoid dignifying the accusations.

>

> They really aren?t questions so much as accusations, after all. I will,

> however, provide what knowledge I have?

>

> >

> >

> > The following questions come to mind:

> >

> > 1- From the educational material given to fellows which is purely

> based on Larus views on each proposals, positions to defend, what are the

> objectives set for each policy meeting and how are the objectives aligned

> with the general community interest?

>

> Actually the educational materials were produced based on the contents of

> RPD and did not express Larus (or any other views) other than the authors

> of the quoted comments. The remaining portion of your run-on sentence isn?t

> really something I can parse into an intelligible question to answer.

>

> If you?re attempting to ask what are Larus objectives set for each policy

> meeting, the objectives are quite simple:

>

> 1. Promote regional participation in AfriNIC and the PDP.

> 2. Enable students and others who may not otherwise be able

> to participate to do so.

> 3. Promote and encourage active engagement within the

> community and expansion of the community.

>

> Do you need further explanation of how those objectives are aligned with

> the general community interest?

>

> > 2- Would Larus assume under these terms and conditions that opinions

> expressed by fellows during policy meetings are Larus opinions and do not

> represent fellow individual opinions?

>

> Fellows are encouraged to express their own opinions. Larus does not

> instruct or screen fellows on the basis of whether or not their views are

> aligned with Larus.

>

> > 3- how is fellow performance measured as it is at Larus sole discretion?

> What are the metrics and values used to determine the performance level?

>

> While there is a subjective component to the process, it is not based on

> alignment with Larus views. It is strictly based on presence,

> participation, and active engagement in the meeting.

>

> These incentives are there to avoid providing a fellowship to someone who

> then chooses to spend the entire trip shopping or on the beach rather than

> attending the meeting.

>

> > 4-how is the reward (0 to 500$) applied based on the fellow performance?

>

> See answer to number 3? The incentive component of the stipend is strictly

> to incentivize active participation. It has nothing to do with what views

> the fellow expresses. To achieve the maximum amount, the fellow must be

> present for all sessions, participating in the sessions where appropriate,

> and any comments made or active participation must be collegial, on-topic,

> and relevant.

>

> I hope this helps you understand the fellowship program.

>

> Owen

>

>

>

>

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>

> Message: 3

> Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2020 06:35:35 +0000

> From: Badru Ntege <badru.ntege at nftconsult.com>

> To: "Marcus K. G. Adomey" <madomey at hotmail.com>, Arnaud AMELINA

> <amelnaud at gmail.com>, AfriNIC Resource Policy Discussion List

> <rpd at afrinic.net>

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> Am i reading that participants will be rewarded due to the amount of time

> they public spend at the mic ??

>

> Just asking what might outrightly be seen as a silly question but looks

> like ?open mic minutes for sell?

>

> As much as we appreciate the above the line opticals of helping the

> community we must always be cognizant of the bellow the line motives.

>

> Pls note I?m reading from the response. And not insinuating any motives

> but as they say If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like

> a duck, then it probably is a duck.

>

> ......just saying

>

> BN

>

>

> Badru Ntege

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> Twt: ntegeb

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> ________________________________

> From: Marcus K. G. Adomey <madomey at hotmail.com>

> Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2020 3:00 AM

> To: Arnaud AMELINA; AfriNIC Resource Policy Discussion List

> Subject: Re: [rpd] Larus foundation and Afrinic PDP

>

> Dear Community,

>

> It looks bizarre that the questions asked here got no responses so far. I

> do hope the Larus Foundation will provide them soon to enlighten this

> community.

>

>

> Marcus

>

> Sent from Outlook Mobile<https://aka.ms/blhgte>

> ________________________________

> From: Arnaud AMELINA <amelnaud at gmail.com>

> Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2020 12:21:14 PM

> To: rpd >> AfriNIC Resource Policy <rpd at afrinic.net>

> Subject: [rpd] Larus foundation and Afrinic PDP

>

> Dear community,

>

> You may remember the recent discussions about Larus Foundation

> fellowship in respect to educational documents provided to fellows as

> meeting background material(*) and which intended to condition their views

> on proposals and their contributions at the PPM and after..

>

> https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/2019/009734.html

>

> I came across the actual agreement which defines the terms and conditions

> under which the fellowship program work.

>

> The agreement signed by each fellow stipulated the followings:

>

> Page 1

> Larus Foundation obligations to offer the fellowship program and payments

> are subject to terms and conditions and *fellow performance*

>

> Page 2

> Fellow is expected to meaningfully participate in the meeting, not just

> sit in the meeting room. This can include voicing opinions, responding to

> comments, participate in Hallway conversations.....

>

>

> Page 5

> Upon fellow completion of the fellowship program at Larus foundation

> satisfaction... Larus will offer stipends... the final decision for the

> disbursement of the stipends is subject to Larus?s sole discretion...

>

> Value of the stipend: There are two parts that form the total value of the

> stipend as the followings:

> First part(advanced payment): in the form of airfare, hotel, other

> transportation costs for the meeting paid up front by Larus.

>

> The second part: the remainder will be paid after the meeting... the value

> is in the range of 0 to 500$. Stipend payment is contingent to fellow

> attendance and participation and conformance to the fellowship terms and

> conditions herein....

>

> Larus judgment on fellow participation will be final and binding to the

> parties

>

> At Larus sole discretion, in the event that fellow fails to actively

> participate in fellowship program and in the meeting or violate this terms

> and conditions, the stipend will not be offered. In addition, Larus is

> entitled to seek indemnify for all costs pay up front by Larus and any

> cost associated to the collection of such compensation, including but not

> limited to court costs, collection costs and attorney.

> =====

>

> The following questions come to mind:

>

> 1- From the educational material given to fellows which is purely based

> on Larus views on each proposals, positions to defend, what are the

> objectives set for each policy meeting and how are the objectives aligned

> with the general community interest?

>

> 2- Would Larus assume under these terms and conditions that opinions

> expressed by fellows during policy meetings are Larus opinions and do not

> represent fellow individual opinions?

>

> 3- how is fellow performance measured as it is at Larus sole discretion?

> What are the metrics and values used to determine the performance level?

>

> 4-how is the reward (0 to 500$) applied based on the fellow performance?

>

> Regards

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