[rpd] RPD Vol 160, Issue 40 reply

[BINEMO SHADIMIADI Jean Guelord]

Hi everyone.
the inquiry must have the principle and standard. on this your concern
must be answered by the organizers of Afrinic who coordinates the
investigation and the results which will flow must be effective and
efficient to allow us to move forward only to know if we will be in
phase 1 or 2. the goal is to move forward


Le mer. 22 janv. 2020 à 08:36, <rpd-request at afrinic.net> a écrit :


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> Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2020 17:25:43 +0100

> From: Sylvain BAYA <abscoco at gmail.com>

> To: BINEMO SHADIMIADI Jean Guelord <guelordshadimiadi at gmail.com>,

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> Subject: [rpd]  my interest and my participation

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> Hi all,

>

> Hope you are well !

>

> Le 19/01/2020 ? 17:18, BINEMO SHADIMIADI Jean Guelord a ?crit?:

> > dear community members.

>

> Dear Binemo,

>

> Thanks for your interest and participation.

> ...i encourage you to go on, brother ;-)

>

> > we are faced with a situation presented and this situation asks us the

> > community to support and accompanied our leadership leaders of Afrinic

> > to make this organization a benchmark. you with our support and

> > collaboration for the success of your mission. on this, the results of

> > the investigation launched by Afrinic thus give us the tracks of the

> > solutions.

>

> ...maybe :-/

>

> But, questions to who must answer :?

>

> ??

> ? In case AFRINIC would have started the investigation earlier, would we

> be in?

> softlanding phase 2 ? then...

> ? About 'solutions' : do you think we can back, again, to phase 1 ?

> ? ...

> ???

>

> Blessed tuesday !

>

> Shalom,

> --sb.

>

> > BINEMO JEAN GUELORD

> >

> > Le dim. 19 janv. 2020 ? 14:00, <rpd-request at afrinic.net

> > <mailto:rpd-request at afrinic.net>> a ?crit?:

> >

> >     [...]

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> >     Today's Topics:

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> >     ? ?1. Afrinic Scandals, future and the PDP (Marcus K. G. Adomey)

> >     ? ?2. Re: [Community-Discuss] Afrinic Scandals, future and the PDP

> >     ? ? ? (Badru Ntege)

> >

> >     -----------

> >

> > [...]

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> Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2020 09:30:16 +0300

> From: Murungi Daniel <dmurungi at wia.co.tz>

> To: Badru Ntege <badru.ntege at nftconsult.com>

> Cc: "community-discuss at afrinic.net" <community-discuss at afrinic.net>,

>         AfriNIC Resource Policy Discussion List <rpd at afrinic.net>

> Subject: Re: [rpd] [Community-Discuss] Afrinic Scandals, future and

>         the PDP

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> Dear Badru,

>

> > On Jan 21, 2020, at 6:54 PM, Badru Ntege <badru.ntege at nftconsult.com>

> wrote:

> >

> > Daniel and all

> >

> > I do not want to get into debate here. I think we all agree that there?s

> an investigation that will come out with an outcome.    And that based on

> that outcome some actions will be expected to be taken.

> >

> > As we await for that outcome we need to appreciate that we have an

> organization that I still 100% appreciate what they do every day and also

> appreciate just like any ISO system appreciates that in any perfect systems

> every now and then we must expect some non conformity.

> >

> > When that happens we fix and mitigate repetition.

> >

> > I?m sure thats what I meant to say sorry you read it differently.

>

> Am sorry I misunderstood your intent. Kindly pardon this error.

>

> >

> > I also appreciate your version of the reality

>

> Thank you sir.

>

>

> Regards,

> Daniel

>

> >

> >

> > Regards.

> >

> > BN

> >

> > Badru Ntege

> > Group CEO

> > NFTCONSULT

> > +256 772712088

> > Twt: ntegeb

> >

> > From: Murungi Daniel <dmurungi at wia.co.tz>

> > Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2020 6:41 PM

> > To: Badru Ntege

> > Cc: Marcus K. G. Adomey; community-discuss at afrinic.net; AfriNIC

> Resource Policy Discussion List

> > Subject: Re: [rpd] [Community-Discuss] Afrinic Scandals, future and the

> PDP

> >

> > Dear Badru,

> >

> >> On Jan 19, 2020, at 2:40 PM, Badru Ntege <badru.ntege at nftconsult.com

> <mailto:badru.ntege at nftconsult.com>> wrote:

> >>

> >> Marcus and All

> >>

> >> Anyone who has run a cooperation will know that any cooperation will

> have issues. For Goodness sake even the Vatican has had issues.

> >

> > I strongly disagree with this assessment. Not only does this tone imply

> that being lackluster is okay but it?s akin to the excuse people make

> regarding poor time keeping - ?This is Africa blah blah blah ??.

> >

> >>

> >> What we do is understand the issue mitigate and ensure we put measures

> in place to prevent a repeat.

> >

> > Not just understand but identify and document at which step or process

> failure occurred. As an ISO certified organization, am certain AfriNIC has

> well documented internal processes and workflows. Clearly, some of the

> processes were not followed in the past and the checks and balances must

> have been ignored by the responsible parties.

> >

> >>

> >> The organisation has told us they are carrying out an investigation.

> And we trust they will do a thorough job.  Let?s wait for the outcomes

> >>

> >>

> >> They are many dooms day proponents but they will always be outnumbered

> by those that wish the organization well.

> >

> > Definitely. For the dooms day proponents - I welcome you to take a walk

> with us on the path of hope.

> >

> >>

> >> We have many dedicated staff that have made AFRINIC what it is today

> and they continue to ensure that we have sustainable infrastructure on this

> continent.  I?m sure the community at large appreciates this and I want to

> hear more from the community.

> >>

> >> We have come along way and we will continue to get better every year.

> AFriNIC belongs to us all.  Let?s support them through the challenges.

> >>

> >> Eddy and team. I and I?m sure many members of this community have trust

> in you and look forward to the next 20 plus years of Afrinic.

> >

> >

> > Trust - Honestly, this has been severely eroded. On the other hand, I

> pray that the good Lord bless Eddy and his team with the grace, wisdom and

> patience required to clean up and carry the organization to new heights.

> >

> >

> > Food for thought -  a Warren Buffet quote - "Lose money for my firm and

> I will be understanding; lose a shred of reputation for the firm, and I

> will be ruthless.?

> >

> >

> > Regards,

> > Daniel

> >

> >>

> >> Regards.

> >>

> >> Sent from my iPhone

> >>

> >>> On 19 Jan 2020, at 02:38, Marcus K. G. Adomey <madomey at hotmail.com

> <mailto:madomey at hotmail.com>> wrote:

> >>>

> >>> ?

> >>> Dear community,

> >>>

> >>> In this long article, Kieren McCarthy set a long trail of issues  our

> beloved RIR has been facing. Probably, nothing new from the old fox, but

> there seems to include serious matters for thought and actions by us.

> >>> His conclusion  below sounds  like a serious interpellation to us.

> >>>

> >>> --------

> >>>

> >>> As its fourth CEO in four years, Kayihura faces an immediate test: can

> he ensure that the issue of the sale of stolen IP blocks is dealt with

> professionally and openly? And then can he use that platform to ensure

> Afrinic starts on a serious process of reform after years of insider

> dealing and cover-ups?

> >>>

> >>> --------

> >>>

> >>> For a bottom-up and community driven organization, the community

> should take its  part of responsibility and promptly act to help the

> organization re-emerge. The advice from the author should be taken

> seriously by this community

> >>>

> >>> The PDWG as one of the major components of this ecosystem must also

> reflect the new reformed Afrinic.

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/12/17/another_afrinic_scandal/ <

> https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/12/17/another_afrinic_scandal/>

> >>>  <https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/12/17/another_afrinic_scandal/>

>

> >>> Stop us if you've heard it before but... Africa's internet management

> body mired again by corruption allegations ? The Register <

> https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/12/17/another_afrinic_scandal/>

> >>> UK data watchdog kicks ?280m British Airways and Marriott GDPR fines

> into legal long grass If you haven't shored up that Citrix hole, you were

> probably hacked over the weekend: Exploit code now ...

> >>> www.theregister.co.uk <http://www.theregister.co.uk/>

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