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[rpd] Proposal Update received: AFRINIC Number Resources Transfer Policy

Noah noah at neo.co.tz
Wed Nov 13 10:15:19 UTC 2019


Hi Owen,

Thanks so much for your comment. We are collecting feedback and we will
take them into consideration on the go.

*./noah*
neo - network engineering and operations


On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 10:16 AM Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com> wrote:


> Not entirely true.

>

> In other parts of the world, the prohibition is against permanent transfer

> without RIR approval/recording and a distinction is drawn between

> allocation/assignment (recorded and performed at the RIR level) and

> reallocation/reassignment (temporary delegation of Provider Allocated or

> Provider Assigned) space.

>

> The intent in this policy is perfectly reasonable, but the wording in this

> particular area should be improved.

>

> Suggest:

>

> “Number resources cannot be permanently transferred from one organization

> to another except by approval of AfriNIC and in accordance with the

> transfer policy. This does not prohibit or prevent reallocation or

> reassignment by service providers to their customers in order to issue

> addresses associated with internet services provided by the provider.”

>

> Owen

>

>

> > On Nov 12, 2019, at 07:25 , Mark Elkins <mje at posix.co.za> wrote:

> >

> > You do know that basically the same sort of policy exists everywhere

> else in the world - and it works there just fine.

> >

> > On 2019/11/12 17:13, Taiwo Oyewande wrote:

> >> Hi all,

> >>

> >> This policy seems unrealistic with the amount of assignments of network

> resources which takes place daily

> >>

> >> In section 2.0:

> >> "Number resources are non-transferable and are not assignable to any

> other organization unless AFRINIC has expressly and in writing approved a

> request for transfer. AFRINIC is tasked with making prudent decisions on

> whether to approve the transfer of number resources".

> >>

> >> Assignment takes place on a regular basis between business and

> business, and business and end-user. If all of these assignments need

> AFRINIC's approval, It will be an herculean task if not impossible for

> AFRINIC to manage such massive amount of assignment.

> >> For instance, if every assignment approval takes 2-3 days (maybe even

> way longer!), this means during the "pre-approval period" businesses and

> end-users will not have the resource they need for daily operations.

> >>

> >> People get IP to assign to customers by its very definition. To be

> frank, I think this policy is unpractical, thus I hereby oppose it.

> >>

> >> Regards

> >>

> >>

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