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[rpd] Proposal Update received: AFRINIC Number Resources Transfer Policy
Sylvain BAYA
abscoco at gmail.com
Wed Oct 23 15:39:27 UTC 2019
Hi all,
Le 22/10/2019 à 22:01, Fernando Frediani a écrit :
>
> The merged entity is free to use the resources if it's within the region.
>
Dear Fernando,
Thanks again.
...then that is my problem : you clearly said 'resources', but you
proposed to select
some of them to be transferable (Intra|Inter-RIR) ; so the others (ASN 4
bytes, IPv6)
will be not... This is how i understand both your point and the actual
CPM. :-/
> For M&A Inter-RIR happen much less often and is something that impacts
> only that entity. Why pass over that situation and costs to all others ?
>
Please can you elaborate, if any new argument, because i already have
kept in mind
your previous argument about the potential inducted cost in the RIR Ops.
> If someone is under a M&A scenario between regions renumbering is just
> part of this type of business and should be accounted as part of that
> business. Although it has some costs it is perfectly possible and
> doable with some planning. I have done plenty in different situations
> and I have survived. Nobody is stopping the entity to use the
> resources, as long they remain within the region.
>
...this is exactly why i want this draft policy proposal to add IPv6
resources :-)
Ok, let's build a simple scenario ; then let me know if you get my point
better after that,
please :
•—•
|• Let's say we have two Orgs (Org#1, Org#2) registered in the AFRINIC
region.
|• Both Orgs are AFRINIC resource members.
|• Org#1 has all type of Internet resources.
|• Org#2 has only IPv4 and bytes ASN as Internet resources.
|• They went throught an acquisition process where Org#2 becomes the new
legal owner
| of Org#1.
|• Legal consequence : All the assets of #Org#1 become those of Org#2.
|• Org#2 decides to continue to provide all services delivered by the
deceased Org#1 ;
•—•
Now Org#2 seeks your advices. What would be your main recommendation to
its Staff ?
...of course, Org#1 and Org#2 will also contact AFRINIC to request the
transfer of
all the Internet resources (IPv{4,6}, ASN_{2,4}_Bytes) from Org#1 to Org#2.
Then question : Which Internet Resources will be transferable according
to the actual CPM
and/or to the actual RSA ?
> I think allowing IPv6 transfers is less of the interest of the
> community and more of the interest of just a few and the implication
> is to pass over this costs to all.
>
> Furthermore I will quote some words said by another person in another
> discussion in another RIR which I fully agree:
>
I understand this argument, Fernando, i'm also following these out of
region Policy discussions.
Please my focus point is specified above. I may be wrong, and i admit :
i don't know the
operational cost you mentioned twice. That is why i'm expecting at least
an answer from
the Staff.
Shalom,
--sb.
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