[rpd] [Community-Discuss] Lobbying Allegations against W

[Jaco Kroon]

My interpretation stands with John in that Andrew was not attempting to 
speak on and for the community, but rather voiced his own opinion and 
believe that Mirriam could not based on the current information 
available draw any conclusions on behalf of the community.

I agree with Andrew.

Kind Regards,
Jaco

On Sun, 7 Jul 2019 at 07:57, John Hay <john at sanren.ac.za 
<mailto:john at sanren.ac.za>> wrote:

>

>     Hi Sami and all the others,

>

>     It is interesting how different people can read the same paragraph

>     and understand it very differently. What I understood when I read

>     Andrew's email was more like this:

>

>     "Do not make a decision yet Mirriam. The community has not decided

>     yet. Just because there were a few vocally against it, does not

>     mean the community is against it."

>

>     Is it what he really meant? I do not know.

>

>

> Interesting!  When I read it, I interpreted Andrew as doing exactly 

> the same as he was accusing Mirriam of i.e speaking for the community 

> or part thereof.

>

> I saw Mirriam as suggesting an approach which makes a lot of sense. We 

> should not shroud in a trivial discussion about what to call ourselves.

>

> Omo

>

>

>

>     Regards

>

>     John

>

>

>     On Sun, 7 Jul 2019 at 08:02, Sami Salih <sami.salih at outlook.com

>     <mailto:sami.salih at outlook.com>> wrote:

>

>         Anderw

>

>         While I can't support or oppose what Mirriam says, I didn't

>         like the way you put your self as judge onbehave of the

>         community. Pls revise your two sentences ("plenty members of

>         this community who are just fine" and "opposition has been

>         relatively limited").

>         BR

>

>         *Dr. Sami H.O. Salih*

>         Assistant Prof, School of Electronics Engineering, SUST

>         Head of R&D, NTC, SUDAN

>         President of SDv6TF

>         T/F: (249)122045707/187171355

>         ------------------------------------------------------------------------

>         *From:* Andrew Alston <Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com

>         <mailto:Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com>>

>         *Sent:* Saturday, July 6, 2019 7:06 AM

>         *To:* mirriamlauren at yahoo.com

>         <mailto:mirriamlauren at yahoo.com>; JORDI PALET MARTINEZ;

>         rpd at afrinic.net <mailto:rpd at afrinic.net>

>         *Subject:* Re: [rpd] [Community-Discuss] Lobbying Allegations

>         against W

>

>         Mirriam,

>

>

>         I have just one question – why do you feel that you can talk

>         on behalf of the community in the way that you are? You state:

>

>

>         /Since Larus Foundation fellowship program is not popular

>         within the community due to the issues raised by members of

>         the community, my suggestion and I will repeat again, is that

>         AFRINIC  takes a central role with matters related to

>         fellowship. Larus Foundation is better of working with

>         AfriNIC, if indeed they mean well for this community. /

>

>

>         Who is this community you refer to?  Because – I’m pretty sure

>         there are plenty members of this community who are just fine

>         with what they have done – myself included – and in fact the

>         opposition has been relatively limited.  So – is the community

>         suddenly just a few detractors? Does this mean I, and others

>         like  me, are not part of “the community”?  I really get a

>         little concerned when I pretty consistently see these

>         grandiose statements on behalf of “the community” rather than

>         stating individual opinions, or the opinions of a specific

>         sub-set.

>

>

>         Andrew

>

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