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    <p>My interpretation stands with John in that Andrew was not
      attempting to speak on and for the community, but rather voiced
      his own opinion and believe that Mirriam could not based on the
      current information available draw any conclusions on behalf of
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    <p>I agree with Andrew.</p>
    <p>Kind Regards,<br>
      Jaco<br>
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          <div class="">On Sun, 7 Jul 2019 at 07:57, John Hay <<a
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              <div class="">It is interesting how different people can
                read the same paragraph and understand it very
                differently. What I understood when I read Andrew's
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              <div class="">"Do not make a decision yet Mirriam. The
                community has not decided yet. Just because there were a
                few vocally against it, does not mean the community is
                against it."</div>
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              <div class="">Is it what he really meant? I do not know.</div>
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          <div class="">Interesting!  When I read it, I interpreted
            Andrew as doing exactly the same as he was accusing Mirriam
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          <div class="">I saw Mirriam as suggesting an approach which
            makes a lot of sense. We should not shroud in a trivial
            discussion about what to call ourselves.</div>
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          <div class="">Omo</div>
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              <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, 7 Jul 2019 at
                08:02, Sami Salih <<a
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                  <div class="">While I can't support or oppose what <span
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                      class="">Mirriam says, I didn't like the way you
                      put your self as judge onbehave of the community.
                      Pls revise your two sentences (</span><span
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                      class="">"plenty members of this community who are
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                      class="">opposition has been relatively limited").</span></div>
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                      Alston <<a
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                      <b class="">Subject:</b> Re: [rpd]
                      [Community-Discuss] Lobbying Allegations against W</font>
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                          class="" lang="EN-US">I have just one question
                          – why do you feel that you can talk on behalf
                          of the community in the way that you are? You
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                            class="">Since Larus Foundation fellowship
                            program is not popular within the community
                            due to the issues raised by members of the
                            community, my suggestion and I will repeat
                            again, is that AFRINIC  takes a central role
                            with matters related to fellowship. Larus
                            Foundation is better of working with
                            AfriNIC, if indeed they mean well for this
                            community. </i></p>
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                            class="" lang="EN-US">Who is this community
                            you refer to?  Because – I’m pretty sure
                            there are plenty members of this community
                            who are just fine with what they have done –
                            myself included – and in fact the opposition
                            has been relatively limited.  So – is the
                            community suddenly just a few detractors? 
                            Does this mean I, and others like  me, are
                            not part of “the community”?  I really get a
                            little concerned when I pretty consistently
                            see these grandiose statements on behalf of
                            “the community” rather than stating
                            individual opinions, or the opinions of a
                            specific sub-set.</span></p>
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