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Emem William dwizard65 at gmail.com
Thu Jul 4 05:21:33 UTC 2019


Thanks @Jordi

I strongly believe Larus Fellowship have taken note of that.

Best regards,
William, EMEM (Snr)

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> 1. Re: Legacy holders? (Daniel Shaw)

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> Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2019 23:24:38 +0200

> From: Daniel Shaw <daniel at techdad.xyz>

> To: rpd at afrinic.net

> Subject: Re: [rpd] Legacy holders?

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> On Tue, 2 Jul 2019 at 14:19, Noah <noah at neo.co.tz> wrote:

> >

>

> > Actually a quick cli check will also show legacy but you have to know

> the block

> >

> > noah$ whois -h whois.afrinic.net <block> | grep LEGACY

> > status: LEGACY

> >

>

> Actually not. There is no "LEGACY" status in the AFRINIC database.

>

> >From 'whois -h whois.afrinic.net -v inetnum' ..

>

> status

>

> Specifies the status of the address range represented by inetnum

> object.

>

> Status can have one of these values:

>

> o ALLOCATED PA

> This status is given to resources issued by AFRINIC to Resource

> members - LIRs and are to be used on the LIR's infrastructure and

> customers(End-Users)

> o ALLOCATED UNSPECIFIED

> This status is used by AFRINIC in placeholder records

> o SUB-ALLOCATED PA

> This status is given to IP address prefixes that have been

> sub-allocated

> by a LIR to its customer which is also an ISP and will be further

> distributed to the ISP's customers

> o ASSIGNED PA

> This status is given to IP addresses registered as being

> assigned by an

> LIR to its infrastructure and customers

> o ASSIGNED PI

> This status is given to resources issued by AFRINIC to its

> Resource

> members - End-Users to be used on their own infrastructure

> o ASSIGNED ANYCAST

> This status is given to resources that get issued under the

> Assigned

> Anycast policy

> o POLICY-RESERVED

> This status is given to resources that AFRINIC has to

> reserve to comply

> with policies that have been ratified

>

>

> **RIPE**'s database is different:

>

> (whois -h whois.ripe.net -v inetnum)

>

> status

>

> Specifies the status of the resource.

>

> Status can have one of these values:

>

> o ALLOCATED PA

> o ALLOCATED PI

> o ALLOCATED UNSPECIFIED

> o LIR-PARTITIONED PA

> o LIR-PARTITIONED PI

> o SUB-ALLOCATED PA

> o ASSIGNED PA

> o ASSIGNED PI

> o ASSIGNED ANYCAST

> o EARLY-REGISTRATION

> o NOT-SET

> o LEGACY

>

>

> And APNIC is again, different:

>

> status

>

> The status of the address range represented by the inetnum

> object.

>

> Syntax:

>

> Status can have one of these values:

>

> - ALLOCATED PORTABLE

> - ALLOCATED NON-PORTABLE

> - ASSIGNED PORTABLE

> - ASSIGNED NON-PORTABLE

>

> ARIN and LACNIC whois do not support the '-v' switch on port 43.

>

> Also:

>

> $ grep -E '^status:' afrinic.db |sort |uniq -c

> 2302 status: ALLOCATED PA

> 155 status: ALLOCATED UNSPECIFIED

> 636 status: ALLOCATED-BY-RIR

> 1735 status: ASSIGNED

> 11 status: ASSIGNED ANYCAST

> 152315 status: ASSIGNED PA

> 1558 status: ASSIGNED PI

> 206 status: Assigned PA

> 24 status: POLICY-RESERVED

> 350 status: SUB-ALLOCATED PA

>

>

> -- Daniel

>

>

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> Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2019 00:26:53 +0300

> From: Noah <noah at neo.co.tz>

> To: Mike Silber <silber.mike at gmail.com>

> Cc: AfriNIC List <rpd at afrinic.net>

> Subject: Re: [rpd] Legacy holders?

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> Hi Mike

>

> On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 11:26 PM Mike Silber <silber.mike at gmail.com> wrote:

>

> > Hi Noah

> >

> > On Wed, 03 Jul 2019 at 22:06, Noah <noah at neo.co.tz> wrote:

> >

> >>

> >>

> >> On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 6:21 AM Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com> wrote:

> >>

> >>> Do they enforce this requirement in countries where no such license is

> >>> required?

> >>>

> >>

> >> I dont know of any country with no telecommunications regulatory

> >> authority in Africa but from my personal experience, I have found it

> rather

> >> great that AfriNIC members services asks for such licenses since they

> are

> >> mandated with the management of Internet Number Resources in Africa.

> >>

> >

> > That was not the question asked.

> >

>

> I perfectly understood Owens question and my response was in line with the

> application for INR from AfriNIC and the requirements required for that

> from my own personal experience.

>

>

> > Your own employer operates (or had operated) perfectly lawfully in a

> > number of countries without a licence.

> >

>

> Dont be confused Mike, a member can lodge the application for INR in one

> country and still use them in other countries within AFRICA. We are talking

> about the application process for INR and the country in which folks apply

> from and what I was saying is that so often, member services will request

> for a license from the regulator.

>

> You are instead confusing with network operations.

>

>

> > I am guessing they aren?t planning on handing back resources (or being

> > denied resources) because they don?t have a licence in every territory in

> > which their resources are used?

> >

>

> Again dont be confused, application for INR in one country to use them for

> numbering networks in that country and other countries within AFRICA in

> encouraged by AfriNIC, after all this is the mandate of AFRINIC, to

> allocate/assign INR resources for use within AFRICA to promote the

> development of the African Internet we we are doing.

>

>

>

> > Why is it any different for other members?

> >

>

> You are not following this discourse well and perhaps I have clarified

> above and I was referring for specifically to ISP and not all other non-ISP

> members and this was from personal experience by the way just so we are

> clear.

>

> Noah

>

>

> >

> > Mike

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> Date: Thu, 04 Jul 2019 00:27:21 +0200

> From: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <jordi.palet at consulintel.es>

> To: <rpd at afrinic.net>

> Subject: Re: [rpd] [Community-Discuss] Larus foundation fellowship

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> Hi Emem,

>

>

>

> Just to make it clear once more.

>

>

>

> I?m very happy and we all should be, if we get Larus and many other

> organizations willing to sponsor people to participate.

>

>

>

> However, in an open and transparent way. They don?t need to be ?directly?

> in touch with all the fellows, so they can agree with Afrinic on the

> selections process, Afrinic do that for them and all them (even from

> different sponsors), get together under the very open and transparent

> rules, not with private meetings with the sponsors.

>

>

>

> I?m sure we all can agree that this will be a fairer way, and the sponsors

> will be recognized the same way by the community, even much better, because

> nobody can then even be suspicious about any bad intentions from the

> sponsors.

>

>

>

> Regards,

>

> Jordi

>

> @jordipalet

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> El 3/7/19 23:25, "Emem William" <dwizard65 at gmail.com> escribi?:

>

>

>

> Dear all,

>

>

>

> I am totally amazed at some people's way of reasoning when tackling

> critical issues.

>

>

>

> Larus foundation sponsored more persons to attend AIS '19, Kampala. She

> did not bring Chinese people to the meeting instead she sponsored fellow

> Africans to attend. She did not just stop at that she went out of her way

> to help intimate the first timers on what policy discussions is all about

> and the possible proposals that might be discussed (as contained in the

> said documents) so as to enhance effective participation.

>

>

>

> Instead of being appreciative, some Africans are still coming out to

> fabricate baseless accusations against the same foundation. It is high time

> we started pondering on whatsoever we want to say before voicing it out to

> avoid making unfounded statements with confidence which might actually

> render our intelligent quotients questionable

>

>

>

> Is it true that AFRINIC seeks to encourage people's participation in

> policy discussions meetings??

>

>

>

> If yes, does it mean AFRINIC wishes that new particpants turn up to get

> embarrassed by old members who have been around for sometimes and have more

> experience??

>

> If no, I suggest AFRINIC should devise how to familiarize first timers

> with the nitty-gritty of policy discussions prior to the commencement of

> next meeting.

>

>

>

> Above all, LARUS FOUNDATION deserve accolade for sponsoring a good number

> of AFRICAN persons to Kampala to participate in the last meeting.

>

>

>

> Thanks!

>

>

>

> Warm regards,

>

> WILLIAM EMEM E. (Snr)

>

>

>

>

>

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> From: Noah <noah at neo.co.tz>

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> On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 6:21 AM Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com> wrote:

>

> > Do they enforce this requirement in countries where no such license is

> > required?

> >

>

> I dont know of any country with no telecommunications regulatory authority

> in Africa but from my personal experience, I have found it rather great

> that AfriNIC members services asks for such licenses since they are

> mandated with the management of Internet Number Resources in Africa.

>

>

> > Do they track the licensing requirements of each of the nations in the

> > service region?

> >

> >

> I dont have an answer to this question but perhaps if necessary they would.

>

>

> > That sounds like a lot of overhead to me.

> >

>

> Not really....

>

>

> > Owen

> >

> >

> > On Jul 2, 2019, at 05:04 , Noah <noah at neo.co.tz> wrote:

> >

> > Andrew

> >

> > We all know what clause 6.1 says but I can assure you that Madhvi's team

> > wont play until you prove that you have a license from the local

> regulator

> > if you intend to build an Internet Infrastructure (ISP) on continent and

> > need resources for the case of an LIR.

> >

> > This additional scrutiny don't have to be spelled out on the Bylaws but

> > they are prudent for staff to ensure they don't allocate/assign space to

> a

> > briefcase LIR.

> >

> > Noah

> >

> >

> > On Tue, 2 Jul 2019, 09:43 Andrew Alston, <

> Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com>

> > wrote:

> >

> >> Heh ? again ? there is no requirement to hold a license ? anywhere.

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Again ? clause 6.1 does not demand a license ? it demands the member of

> >> AfriNIC is providing services on the continent ? it doesn?t say what

> >> services ? it doesn?t say that it has to be providing those services in

> the

> >> country of domicile ? it doesn?t say the services provided have to be

> >> related to the resources AfriNIC grants it ? it doesn?t say that you

> can?t

> >> use the resources from AfriNIC off continent and use a /32 in Africa for

> >> that matter.

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Heh ? there are MANY reasons for a company to be domiciled in one

> country

> >> and conducting business in another ? so ? I find this information a

> little

> >> spurious

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Andrew

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> *From:* Ronald F. Guilmette <rfg at tristatelogic.com>

> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, 2 July 2019 00:21

> >> *To:* AfriNIC List <rpd at afrinic.net>

> >> *Subject:* Re: [rpd] Legacy holders?

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> In message <

> >> CAEqgTWYs+9b2c4pP6cBAkQAOFXoi+rfOTqohzUz39LaQ13DZmg at mail.gmail.com>

> >> Noah <noah at neo.co.tz> wrote:

> >>

> >> >LIR membership 101 requires that one has a business license and another

> >> >license from a local communications regulatory authority of the country

> >> >where they are requesting space from. Member services team from AfriNIC

> >> >always require this before space is allocated/assigned to an entity.

> >>

> >> That's really very interesting. I didn't know any of this before now.

> >> (I am learning more and more, every day, by paying attention to the

> >> postings

> >> on this list!)

> >>

> >> Based on what you just said, I took it upon myself to try to find the

> >> web sites for the local communications regulatory authority of a couple

> >> of the specific national jurisdictions that Afrinic serves, and that are

> >> of special interest to me, i.e. Seychelles and Mauritius.

> >>

> >> I think that I found both, but it appears that of the two, only the one

> >> for Mauritius has an actual published online list of "License Holders":

> >>

> >> https://www.icta.mu/com_licences.html

> >>

> >> I also took it upon myself to try to see to what degree the list of

> >> "Mauritius" members of Afrinic corresponded with the list of Mauritius

> >> communications authority license holders.

> >>

> >> Of the thirty one (31) "Mauritius" members of Afrinic listed here:

> >>

> >> https://afrinic.net/membership/list

> >>

> >> Twelve (12) of them are listed as Mauritius communications authority

> >> license holders. The remaining ninteen (19) are not so listed. These

> >> are as follows:

> >>

> >> Leal Communication and informatics ltd

> >> Mauritius Computing Services Ltd

> >> Millenium Outsourcing Ltd

> >> MXIT Lifestyle International Ltd

> >> Mauritius Freeport Development Company Ltd

> >> Liquid Telecommunications Operations Limited

> >> SEACOM Limited

> >> West Indian Ocean Cable Company

> >> Pamoja Africa

> >> La Sentinelle Ltd

> >> MC VISION LTD

> >> Internet Direct Ltd

> >> Ireland Blyth Informatics LTD

> >> University of Mauritius

> >> Forcepoint Mauritius

> >> Mauritius Internet Exchange Point

> >> Woodynet Ltd

> >> African Network Operators' Group (AFNOG)

> >> African Network Information Center - ( AfriNIC Ltd. )

> >>

> >> I would guess that it is quite entirely reasonable that those last two

> are

> >> not registered at communications companies within Mauritius, because I

> >> doubt that either one is actually providing commercial communications

> >> services of any kind within Mauritius. The rest I'm not so sure about.

> >>

> >> At present, I know of no way in which any "outsider" could determine

> >> which, if any, of the twenty four (24) "Seychelles" members of Afrinic

> >> are or are not licensed communications providers within that country.

> >>

> >> I'm not trying to make any particular point here. I just wanted to share

> >> this info with everyone, in case folks other than me might also find it

> >> interesting.

> >>

> >>

> >> Regards,

> >> rfg

> >>

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> From: Taiwo Oyewande <taiwo.oyewande88 at gmail.com>

> To: hkariuki at isoc.or.ke

> Cc: community-discuss at afrinic.net, rpd at afrinic.net

> Subject: Re: [rpd] [Community-Discuss] Larus foundation fellowship

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> > On 3 Jul 2019, at 19:35, hkariuki at isoc.or.ke wrote:

> >

> > Taiwo,

> > I am a first time Afrinic 30 fellow and attended the last AIS meeting in

> Kampala and therefore by extension an Afrinic Alumni. I can confirm that we

> were given summary and links to the policies before the meeting. We also

> had a webinar before the meeting and materials emailed to us and onsite

> discussions and after we join the mailing lists to continue learning and

> contributing to policy discussions.

> > Regards,

> > Hellen

> >

> >

> >> On 2019-07-02 16:25, Taiwo Oyewande wrote:

> >> Hi all,

> >> Taking a good look at this resource, it is obviously a summary of the

> >> policies to be discussed.

> >> Larus fellowship tends towards promoting the youth - students

> >> included-. I think this summary will be a good starting point for new

> >> members who are fresh in the policy development process.

> >> On this note, i will like to encourage Afrinic to emulate the

> >> foundation and come up with an official summary like this before every

> >> meeting to enable new and interested members get up to speed quickly.

> >> Cheers.

> >> Taiwo O

> >>> On Tue, 2 Jul 2019 at 20:36, Andrew Alston

> >>> <Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com> wrote:

> >>>> Wafa,

> >>>> So ? let me say this. I see a document here ? which lays out

> >>>> the policies ? and provides a perspective of problems, it also

> >>>> lists the pros and cons. Yes, Lazarus may have used the

> >>>> foundation to lobby for its position, but ? one of the things

> >>>> that I have long accepted in my life is ? if you believe in

> >>>> something ? you have to lobby for it ? and to be frank ? the

> >>>> summary that I see in this document ? is something that by and

> >>>> large ? should have been done long before they got around to it.

> >>>> If I, as an individual, feel strongly about something, I am

> >>>> entirely free to go and advocate for my position. I am also

> >>>> entirely free to sponsor people to come to a public meeting ?

> >>>> and I am entirely free to choose those people as I so wish, if I

> >>>> choose the people who agree with me, well, that?s life ? but

> >>>> it certainly aint against the rules, it is the political nature of

> >>>> internet policy development. Do you think that similar does not

> >>>> happen elsewhere? People lobby for the positions that they care

> >>>> about. It happens in politics, it happens in life, and yet now we

> >>>> want to cry when someone else does the same thing.

> >>>> Let me also say ? it?s not like this hasn?t been happening

> >>>> before ? and I want to quote from the OIF website: _IOF

> >>>> ORGANISES POLITICAL ACTIVITIES AND ACTIONS OF MULTILATERAL

> >>>> COOPERATION THAT BENEFIT FRENCH-SPEAKING POPULATIONS.___

> >>>> Yet ? this is an organization that for years has spent money

> >>>> filling the room with people ? and that statement does not say

> >>>> ? is of benefit to Africa ? it does not say is of benefit to

> >>>> the African continent ? it does not say is to the benefit of the

> >>>> continent ? it singles out a single demographic on the continent

> >>>> and says ? we do what we do for their benefit. Now, let me be

> >>>> very clear, if they wish to do that ? I?m actually ok with it

> >>>> ? though I admit I have waivered on this stance ? however, we

> >>>> cannot say ? because it?s a government political organization

> >>>> ? it?s ok ? but when a member chooses to have a foundation

> >>>> ? and sponsor people to the meetings ? and then lobby for the

> >>>> positions that member is passionate about ? suddenly its wrong.

> >>>> That is called hypocrisy.

> >>>> In Point Noire, I watched people walk to the microphone ? with

> >>>> slips of paper and read a comment on a policy ? and then go and

> >>>> sit down ? and the same happened in Botswana. Except, what I

> >>>> found was, when queried on the position that was taken at the

> >>>> microphone, the individual reading what they had off the paper,

> >>>> had patently obviously never read the policy and didn?t

> >>>> understand the position they were taking themselves. So who was

> >>>> behind that? And all of that ? is on video for the world to see

> >>>> ? but ? it was ok then ? suddenly it changes now because we

> >>>> don?t like the individual doing it?

> >>>> Sorry ? this isn?t the way it works ? and let me be clear

> >>>> ? Lu Heng is not a friend of mine, and in fact in Mauritius I

> >>>> had some pretty strong things to say to him to his face, in front

> >>>> of others who will testify to what I said to him ? however ? I

> >>>> respect his rights as a member to participate in what is

> >>>> essentially a democratic process, that means ? I respect his

> >>>> right to lobby for his views, I respect his right to put boots on

> >>>> the ground, and I respect his right to have his say. In the same

> >>>> way ? I respect the right of any member to do that ? and I

> >>>> respect the right of the members to then rebut what is said if

> >>>> they do not agree with it. It is through this lobbying position

> >>>> and through the back and forth that accompanies it, that great

> >>>> policy is born ? it is not through acquiescence, nor is it

> >>>> through the silencing of the rights of others.

> >>>> My view ? if anyone wants to come into the room and have their

> >>>> say ? so be it ? that is bottom up. If people want to lobby

> >>>> their positions ? so be it ? that is bottom up. If people

> >>>> want to spend money running tv adverts about their positions for

> >>>> all I care ? so be it ? that is the nature of the democratic

> >>>> position. If people want to bus a thousand people who share their

> >>>> views ? again ? so be it ? that is the democratic process.

> >>>> However, it is the community who then need to rebut ? but ?

> >>>> the rebuttal should be on the policy itself. What I see here

> >>>> however, is a rebuttal of policy and a lobbying position taken on

> >>>> the *CONTENT* of the policy ? unlike what I have seen time and

> >>>> again in the meetings where the lobbying position has NOTHING to

> >>>> do with the content or the policy.

> >>>> So rather than malign Lazarus for their actions here ? quite

> >>>> frankly, reading this document, and as much as as I have said, Lu

> >>>> and I have some serious differences, I applaud Lazarus for the

> >>>> comprehensive work ? and I applaud them for taking a stance that

> >>>> was based on the policy and I embrace their right to lobby for

> >>>> their position in any way shape or form. That is not to say I

> >>>> agree with the positions taken in this document ? I will reserve

> >>>> my policy comments for the policies and based on my own

> >>>> interpretation of such ? but ? I embrace the fact that at

> >>>> least, it was done based on what was written, and not on personal

> >>>> relationships, personal attacks, demographics, or anything else.

> >>>> So ? to Lazarus ? thank you for a job well done in the fact

> >>>> that you lobbied your position based on the policies ? and left

> >>>> the other garbage behind, which is what we so often see.

> >>>> Finally ? again ? I respect the right to do what they did ?

> >>>> and

> >>>> _THAT IS DEMOCRATIC_

> >>>> Thanks

> >>>> Andrew

> >>>> FROM: wafa DAHMANI <wafa at ati.tn>

> >>>> SENT: Tuesday, 2 July 2019 12:30

> >>>> TO: community-discuss at afrinic.net

> >>>> CC: rpd at afrinic.net

> >>>> SUBJECT: [Community-Discuss] Larus foundation fellowship

> >>>> Hi

> >>>> It fell under public domain, that those who benefited from Larus

> >>>> foundation fellowship to attend the last afrinic meeting in

> >>>> Kampala, were given a confidential Education package on AFRINIC

> >>>> Number Resources Policy proposals detailed in the following link:

> >>>> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1kf7K8JdL-zl5NYjlboltmoXeq2mAJvNg

> >>>> The document lists the proposals to be discussed, Larus Foundation

> >>>> views of Pros and Cons on each of them, selective PDWG

> >>>> participants interventions on the proposals.

> >>>> The education package so proposed intends to condition these

> >>>> participants views on the proposals and their contributions at

> >>>> the PPM and after....

> >>>> I like to remind us that the PDP is open for any individual

> >>>> willing to participate. Views expressed are personal. No need to

> >>>> know who is behind each source email address... only opinions

> >>>> expressed in the context of the PDP matter. The substance of

> >>>> contribution really matter. Diversity of views are encouraged.

> >>>> Lack of disagreement is more important than of agreement. Also

> >>>> PDP is not a matter of volume, repetition or persistence.

> >>>> RFC 7282 section 6 and 7 are clear on these aspects of the rough

> >>>> consensus process.

> >>>> Section 6

> >>>> One hundred people for and five people against might not be rough

> >>>> consensus.

> >>>> Section 7

> >>>> Five people for and one hundred people against might still be

> >>>> rough consensus

> >>>> My African fellows,

> >>>> Your desire to participate to AFRINIC policy development Process

> >>>> is legitimate and must be encouraged. I hope the last meeting was

> >>>> useful to you and allow you to identify the issues, understand

> >>>> what is going on and what Africa needs... I hope you?ve made

> >>>> your minds and now able to speak on your personal capacity..

> >>>> The real education package is as below:

> >>>> =====

> >>>> Proposal to establish AFRINIC

> >>

> http://web01.jnb.afrinic.net/en/library/policies/archive/ppm-minutes/862-kuala-lumpur-1997

> >>>> IANA report on AFRINIC (Accreditation)

> >>>> https://www.iana.org/reports/2005/afrinic-report-05aug2005.pdf

> >>>> AFRINIC constitution

> >>>> https://www.afrinic.net/bylaws

> >>>> Registration Service Agreement

> >>>> https://www.afrinic.net/membership/agreements#rsa

> >>>> AFRINIC policy manual

> >>>> https://afrinic.net/policy/manual

> >>>> AFRINIC policies before the adoption of the CPM

> >>>> https://www.afrinic.net/cpm-pre

> >>>> AFRINIC PDP

> >>>> https://www.afrinic.net/policy

> >>>> Rough Consensus

> >>>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7282

> >>>> AFRINIC current policy proposals

> >>>> https://www.afrinic.net/policy/proposals

> >>>> RiRs PDPs

> >>>> https://www.nro.net/policy/regional/

> >>>> RIR comparative policy overview

> >>> https://www.nro.net/policy/regional/rir-comparative-policy-overview/

> >>>> ==============

> >>>> Please read and process them, ask questions and find your way.

> >>>> Come build African Internet by Africans.

> >>>> As for Larus Foundation, your relationship to cloud innovation,

> >>>> afrinic member with suspicious activities, holding 6 millions of

> >>>> IPv4 is long established and discussed many times on this list. I

> >>>> hope the fellows would find these discussions in the archives.

> >>>> I call the attention of the board on the repetitive attempts of

> >>>> this resource member to hijack the PDP for its sordid

> >>>> intentions... the provisions of the bylaws and RSA must

> >>>> carefully be applied to recall members to acceptable code of

> >>>> conduct.

> >>>> The African Internet community as well as the global Internet

> >>>> community must pay close attention and protect the RIRs Policy

> >>>> development process and operations.

> >>>> -Wafa _______________________________________________

> >>>> Community-Discuss mailing list

> >>>> Community-Discuss at afrinic.net

> >>>> https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss

> >>> --

> >>> VIVIEN

> >>> LARUS CLOUD SERVICE LIMITED

> >>> p:+852 29888918

> >>> f:+852 29888368

> >>> e:a.v.p at laruscloudservice.net

> >>> w:laruscloudservice.net/ [1]

> >>> a:B5,11/F,TML Tower,No.3 Hoi Shing Road,Tsuen Wan,HKSAR

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> >>> https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss

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