[rpd] inputs on IPv4 Inter-RIR policy proposals - AFRINIC needs this policy now!

[Mike Silber]

I support the proposal and would prefer not to have any restrictions.

However Ish makes a good point to try address the concerns - provide an initial evaluation period with a limit on outflows and see what happens.

Hopefully there will be no incongruity, the concerns of those speaking against the policy will be assuaged and we can move on.

Right now many people have historical evidence in totally unrelated areas of external parties extracting resources from Africa and they want to avoid a repeat. It is difficult to speak against historical occurrences - even if they are unlikely to occur here.

I believe the concerns of those people can be adequately addressed in a “trial period” and if it turns out that they are correct - then we have not lost too many resources and the policy can be rolled-back.

Mike

> On 19 Jun 2019, at 08:28, Ish Sookun <ish.sookun at lasentinelle.mu> wrote:
> 
> Hi Jordi,
> 
> I am not in support neither against these proposals but I'd rather make
> a remark.
> 
> A strong opposition was observed against Inter-RIR transfers during
> policy discussions in Hammamet. A major concern expressed was that we
> might end up having resources moving in one direction only; i.e leaving
> the region only.
> 
> There were suggestions to introduce a check/control by setting a maximum
> limit on transfers. I do not see that those suggestions or other similar
> ones having been considered. Therefore, what has changed in the policy
> proposal now? The proposal if implemented as it is might be abused, thus
> leaving the region losing its IPv4 resources.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Ish Sookun
> 
> On 6/15/19 1:23 PM, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via RPD wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I wonder if anyone has inputs on the policy proposals for IPv4 Inter-RIR transfers.
>> 
>> https://www.afrinic.net/policy/proposals/2019-v4-001-d1
>> 
>> and
>> 
>> https://www.afrinic.net/policy/proposals/2019-v4-002-d1
>> 
>> I will be presenting both of them together on Wednesday 19th. If you're not in Kampala, make sure to participate remotely (https://www.internetsummit.africa/en/participate-remotely), so we can resolve any doubts on the spot.
>> 
>> This is a key issue for AFRINIC, which now is the *only* RIR not allowing those transfers.
>> 
>> AFRINIC is soon (probably around end of this year) entering in exhaustion phase 2, so it will become more and more difficult to obtain IPv4. If transfers from other regions aren't allowed, this will be an added difficulty for the Internet growth in the region, and increase the difficulties for the continued IPv6 deployment.
>> 
>> The region needs this policy *now*, because the implementation requires several months as there is a need to coordinate with the systems of the other RIRs, in order to ensure a transparent transfers process.
>> 
>> So, what is your opinion?
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Jordi
>> @jordipalet
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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