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[rpd] IPV4 inter-RIR Legacy Resources Transfer

Frank Habicht geier at geier.ne.tz
Tue Jun 18 09:37:04 UTC 2019


I agree and support this policy.

Frank Habicht


On 18/06/2019 12:23, Emem William wrote:
> Dear all, 
> Jordie and Mark has giving all the points. There is no need for me to
> repeat them. 
> Afrinic is the only region left out cos we are sometimes slow.
> I totally agree with this policy and I believe it should get approved
> here in Uganda.
> Thanks
> 
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>        1. Re: inputs on IPv4 Inter-RIR policy proposals - AFRINIC needs
>           this policy now! (Pascal ANDRIANISA)
>        2. Re: IPV4 inter-RIR Legacy Resources Transfer. (aleruchi chuku)
>        3. Re: IPV4 inter-RIR Legacy Resources Transfer. (Kris Seeburn)
>        4. Re: IPV4 inter-RIR Legacy Resources Transfer
>           (Hussein Olanrewaju AKANDE)
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>     Message: 1
>     Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2019 10:48:06 +0300 (EAT)
>     From: Pascal ANDRIANISA <pascal at irenala.edu.mg
>     <mailto:pascal at irenala.edu.mg>>
>     To: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <jordi.palet at consulintel.es
>     <mailto:jordi.palet at consulintel.es>>
>     Cc: rpd <rpd at afrinic.net <mailto:rpd at afrinic.net>>
>     Subject: Re: [rpd] inputs on IPv4 Inter-RIR policy proposals - AFRINIC
>             needs this policy now!
>     Message-ID:
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>     <2084202978.190352.1560844086975.JavaMail.zimbra at irenala.edu.mg
>     <mailto:2084202978.190352.1560844086975.JavaMail.zimbra at irenala.edu.mg>>
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>     Hi Jordi,
>     I read the policy proposal for IPV4 Inter-RIR Transfert.   
>     The article =>
>     https://www.afrinic.net/policy/proposals/2019-v4-002-d1#proposal
>       I think this is not the benefit of AFRINIC as resources are
>     currently insufficient for AFRINIC.
>     Otherwise it is necessary to balance the transfers between RIR
>     because at least the number of resources is limited to sending to
>     other RIRs.
> 
>     I do not support this policy for this reason, The AFRINIC's
>     resources are not enough for AFRICA, why transfer them elsewhere ....
> 
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>     ----- Mail original -----
>     De: "rpd" <rpd at afrinic.net <mailto:rpd at afrinic.net>>
>     ?: "rpd" <rpd at afrinic.net <mailto:rpd at afrinic.net>>
>     Envoy?: Samedi 15 Juin 2019 13:23:23
>     Objet: [rpd] inputs on IPv4 Inter-RIR policy proposals - AFRINIC
>     needs this policy now!
> 
>     Hi all,
> 
>     I wonder if anyone has inputs on the policy proposals for IPv4
>     Inter-RIR transfers.
> 
>     https://www.afrinic.net/policy/proposals/2019-v4-001-d1
> 
>     and
> 
>     https://www.afrinic.net/policy/proposals/2019-v4-002-d1
> 
>     I will be presenting both of them together on Wednesday 19th. If
>     you're not in Kampala, make sure to participate remotely
>     (https://www.internetsummit.africa/en/participate-remotely), so we
>     can resolve any doubts on the spot.
> 
>     This is a key issue for AFRINIC, which now is the *only* RIR not
>     allowing those transfers.
> 
>     AFRINIC is soon (probably around end of this year) entering in
>     exhaustion phase 2, so it will become more and more difficult to
>     obtain IPv4. If transfers from other regions aren't allowed, this
>     will be an added difficulty for the Internet growth in the region,
>     and increase the difficulties for the continued IPv6 deployment.
> 
>     The region needs this policy *now*, because the implementation
>     requires several months as there is a need to coordinate with the
>     systems of the other RIRs, in order to ensure a transparent
>     transfers process.
> 
>     So, what is your opinion?
> 
>     Regards,
>     Jordi
>     @jordipalet
> 
> 
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>     Message: 2
>     Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2019 08:41:32 +0000 (UTC)
>     From: aleruchi chuku <aleruchichuku at yahoo.com
>     <mailto:aleruchichuku at yahoo.com>>
>     To: "pascal at irenala.edu.mg <mailto:pascal at irenala.edu.mg>"
>     <pascal at irenala.edu.mg <mailto:pascal at irenala.edu.mg>>,  ishola kabir
>             <isholakabir at gmail.com <mailto:isholakabir at gmail.com>>
>     Cc: "rpd at afrinic.net <mailto:rpd at afrinic.net>" <rpd at afrinic.net
>     <mailto:rpd at afrinic.net>>
>     Subject: Re: [rpd] IPV4 inter-RIR Legacy Resources Transfer.
>     Message-ID: <820859170.2990967.1560847292489 at mail.yahoo.com
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>     If the IPV4 is not enough for the region, then there will be nothing
>     to transfere....would there?
>     But where it is available and as we all know gradually becoming
>     "old" in our region, then perhaps it is truly to our benefit to be
>     able to transfere this resource to other regions as well as recieve
>     from them.
>     Aleruchi
> 
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>       On Tue, 18 Jun 2019 at 9:07 am, Pascal
>     ANDRIANISA<pascal at irenala.edu.mg <mailto:pascal at irenala.edu.mg>>
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>     Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2019 12:44:56 +0400
>     From: Kris Seeburn <seeburn.k at gmail.com <mailto:seeburn.k at gmail.com>>
>     To: "aleruchichuku at yahoo.com <mailto:aleruchichuku at yahoo.com>"
>     <aleruchichuku at yahoo.com <mailto:aleruchichuku at yahoo.com>>
>     Cc: "rpd at afrinic.net <mailto:rpd at afrinic.net>" <rpd at afrinic.net
>     <mailto:rpd at afrinic.net>>, ishola kabir
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>     Subject: Re: [rpd] IPV4 inter-RIR Legacy Resources Transfer.
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>     That is a thought of sense. If we do that we equate and live another
>     day as we say. Yes old it will be and pushing to be at par with
>     others is the way through
> 
>     > On 18 Jun 2019, at 12:41, aleruchi chuku via RPD <rpd at afrinic.net
>     <mailto:rpd at afrinic.net>> wrote:
>     >
>     > If the IPV4 is not enough for the region, then there will be
>     nothing to transfere....would there?
>     >
>     > But where it is available and as we all know gradually becoming
>     "old" in our region, then perhaps it is truly to our benefit to be
>     able to transfere this resource to other regions as well as recieve
>     from them.
>     >
>     > Aleruchi
>     >
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>     > On Tue, 18 Jun 2019 at 9:07 am, Pascal ANDRIANISA
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>     Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2019 09:43:58 +0100
>     From: Hussein Olanrewaju AKANDE <elsufi at unilorin.edu.ng
>     <mailto:elsufi at unilorin.edu.ng>>
>     To: Kris Seeburn <seeburn.k at gmail.com <mailto:seeburn.k at gmail.com>>
>     Cc: "AfriNIC RPD MList." <rpd at afrinic.net <mailto:rpd at afrinic.net>>
>     Subject: Re: [rpd] IPV4 inter-RIR Legacy Resources Transfer
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>     I agree with you perfectly.
> 
>     On Tue, Jun 18, 2019 at 9:05 AM Kris Seeburn <seeburn.k at gmail.com
>     <mailto:seeburn.k at gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>     > I?ll second and if not support that resources be used than kept in the
>     > coffer. If the coffer generated some interest I would see no issue
>     but our
>     > existence is also trying to find a stability between all the RIRs and
>     > resources needs to be used for continuous existence and sustainability
>     >
>     > On 18 Jun 2019, at 11:53, Hussein Olanrewaju AKANDE <
>     > elsufi at unilorin.edu.ng <mailto:elsufi at unilorin.edu.ng>> wrote:
>     >
>     > Dear All,
>     > Thank you Mark Elkins for those wonderful points, I do not
>     understand why
>     > we should continue to keep the resources when they can easily be
>     utilized.
>     >
>     > On Tue, Jun 18, 2019 at 8:21 AM <rpd-request at afrinic.net
>     <mailto:rpd-request at afrinic.net>> wrote:
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>     >>    1. Re: Nomcom feedback to PDWG (Owen DeLong)
>     >>    2. Re: IPV4 inter-RIR Legacy Resources Transfer. (Pascal
>     ANDRIANISA)
>     >>    3. Re: IPV4 inter-RIR Legacy Resources Transfer. (Mark Elkins)
>     >>
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>     >> Message: 1
>     >> Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2019 23:19:55 +0300
>     >> From: Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com <mailto:owen at delong.com>>
>     >> To: Ernest Byaruhanga <ernest at afrinic.net
>     <mailto:ernest at afrinic.net>>
>     >> Cc: 2019 NomCom <nomcom2019 at afrinic.net
>     <mailto:nomcom2019 at afrinic.net>>, rpd at afrinic.net
>     <mailto:rpd at afrinic.net>
>     >> Subject: Re: [rpd] Nomcom feedback to PDWG
>     >> Message-ID: <F7C58339-1AD0-4729-95E3-3F1110B5C11B at delong.com
>     <mailto:F7C58339-1AD0-4729-95E3-3F1110B5C11B at delong.com>>
>     >> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset=utf-8
>     >>
>     >> Ernest, as I understand the PDP and the bylaws, the only
>     appropriate way
>     >> to implement the output of that committee would be for the
>     committee to
>     >> write up one or more policy proposals to codify then into the PDP
>     and have
>     >> the community come to consensus on them.
>     >>
>     >> Failing that, they are an ex party change to the PDP in violation
>     of the
>     >> PDP and the bylaws. While I agree with most of the
>     recommendations on that
>     >> page, we must above all preserve the integrity of the process and
>     therefore
>     >> follow the rules when we seek to amend the process.
>     >>
>     >> Owen
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> > On Jun 17, 2019, at 17:08, Ernest Byaruhanga
>     <ernest at afrinic.net <mailto:ernest at afrinic.net>>
>     >> wrote:
>     >> >
>     >> > Owen,
>     >> >
>     >> > An update to the PDWG co-chair election process was produced by an
>     >> elections process review committee instituted by the CEO and
>     shared with
>     >> the community for comments and feedback, sometime in 2012:
>     >> >
>     >> > https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/2012/002145.html
>     >> >
>     >> > Unfortunately we are not able to download or locate the
>     original copy,
>     >> but the adopted document used in 2013 included the requirement
>     that those
>     >> voting should be residing within the AFRINIC region.
>     >> >
>     >> > The elections committee has however never enforced this requirement
>     >> despite its presence in the elections guideline, which was
>     presumably an
>     >> output of that review committee based on comments and feedback
>     consequent
>     >> to the call for comments.
>     >> >
>     >> > The elections committee will therefore not be enforcing this
>     >> requirement in the coming election based on precedent.
>     >> >
>     >> > On the issue of remote participants voting, we have not
>     provided for
>     >> this before, and unfortunately not at the upcoming election.
>     >> >
>     >> > We welcome and will include the community?s feedback towards
>     improving
>     >> the current election processes.
>     >> >
>     >> > Ernest.
>     >> >
>     >> >
>     >> >> On 16 Jun 2019, at 09:08, Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com
>     <mailto:owen at delong.com>> wrote:
>     >> >>
>     >> >> I have some questions about the conduct of this election.
>     >> >>
>     >> >> First, I would think that the controlling document would be
>     the CPM
>     >> and not some random webpage of unknown origin.
>     >> >>
>     >> >> Thus, I suggest that the rules (such as they are) are outlined
>     in CPM
>     >> section 3 and that where the following page:
>     >> >>    https://afrinic.net/policy/development-working-group#election
>     >> >>
>     >> >> Conflicts or provides additional restrictions, the CPM should be
>     >> controlling and additional restrictions specified there are not
>     valid.
>     >> >>
>     >> >> I have not yet seen anyone answer Dewole?s earlier question about
>     >> where this procedure came from and how it was deployed without
>     community
>     >> involvement or consensus.
>     >> >>
>     >> >> Amending the election procedure (or even making it more specific)
>     >> should be done through modification of the PDP via the PDP.
>     >> >>
>     >> >> It certainly should not be done ad hoc by AfriNIC staff, the
>     board, or
>     >> whoever else produced that page.
>     >> >>
>     >> >> For example, it has never previously been the practice that
>     one must
>     >> reside in a country within AfriNIC region in order to vote for PDWG
>     >> co-chair, nor should it be. AfriNIC policies affect those outside
>     of the
>     >> region as well as those within the region and there are a significant
>     >> number of people active in the PDWG that do not live within the
>     region,
>     >> myself included.
>     >> >>
>     >> >> No RIR that I know of restricts voting for PDWG co-chairs (or
>     >> equivalent) to those residing in the region.
>     >> >>
>     >> >> Then there is the question of remote participants voting.
>     >> >>
>     >> >> The CPM section 3.3 is silent on this matter for a normal
>     election, so
>     >> that leaves an open question.
>     >> >> However,
>     https://afrinic.net/policy/development-working-group#election
>     >> states that you must be physically present in the room and must
>     have a
>     >> badge showing that you have registered (assuming that they sort
>     out the
>     >> irregularities with badge printing).
>     >> >>
>     >> >> Can we please get some clarification on the procedure for this
>     >> election at least 24 hours before the voting starts?
>     >> >>
>     >> >> Thanks,
>     >> >>
>     >> >> Owen
>     >> >>
>     >> >>
>     >> >>> On Jun 9, 2019, at 1:51 AM, Dewole Ajao <dewole at forum.org.ng
>     <mailto:dewole at forum.org.ng>> wrote:
>     >> >>>
>     >> >>> I was going to reply to say there are no standing rules on
>     conduct of
>     >> PDWG elections but I see from the CPM that the PDP election
>     process somehow
>     >> seems to have evolved. Can someone in the know please clarify how
>     we came
>     >> about the detailed election notes outlined at
>     >> https://afrinic.net/policy/development-working-group#election ?
>     This is
>     >> bearing in mind that changes to the PDP can only be done via the PDP.
>     >> >>>
>     >> >>> My suggestion about giving the working group the option of
>     retaining
>     >> the current co-chair was an attempt to avoid 2 co-chairs leaving
>     after the
>     >> same meeting. Note that my suggested process allows the working group
>     >> members present (who are the deciders of who becomes co-chair)
>     the option
>     >> of rejecting the default seat retention.
>     >> >>>
>     >> >>> In any case, all of this is speculation as a result of the NomCom
>     >> asking us what we think. At this point, it is over to Elections
>     Committee
>     >> to tell us how they intend to handle this.
>     >> >>>
>     >> >>> Regards,
>     >> >>>
>     >> >>> Dewole.
>     >> >>>
>     >> >>>
>     >> >>>
>     >> >>>
>     >> >>>> On 6/8/2019 11:31 PM, Daniel Yakmut wrote:
>     >> >>>> I want to believe that we have standing rules on who is
>     qualify to
>     >> be voted and how our elections should be conducted. I hope we not
>     trying to
>     >> define new rules here.
>     >> >>>>
>     >> >>>> We should stick to the rules and all candidates regardless
>     should be
>     >> given a level playing field. i don't subscribe to allowing anyone
>     giving
>     >> any special consideration.
>     >> >>>>
>     >> >>>> In particular I believe that all the candidates that are
>     >> volunteering, could possibly some fresh air to the conduct of the
>     PWDG. So
>     >> let us not disadvantage anyone.
>     >> >>>>
>     >> >>>> So far NomCom have shown commitment to  a fair process and
>     >> maintaining that going forward will be important.
>     >> >>>>
>     >> >>>> Simply,
>     >> >>>> Danile
>     >> >>>>
>     >> >>>>
>     >> >>>>
>     >> >>>>> On Jun 8, 2019, at 11:06 PM, Dewole Ajao
>     <dewole at forum.org.ng <mailto:dewole at forum.org.ng>>
>     >> wrote:
>     >> >>>>>
>     >> >>>>> Sorry, the election slot is missing from the draft agenda I
>     shared
>     >> earlier. It may be inefficient to have election at the start of
>     the policy
>     >> day so it is planned to hold towards the end of the day. Holding the
>     >> election before the open mic will allow working group members
>     also provide
>     >> feedback on the process during the open mic.
>     >> >>>>>
>     >> >>>>> The contents of
>     >> https://www.afrinic.net/candidate-slate-for-pdwg-election-2019 remain
>     >> unchanged from the pre-protest announcement. Perhaps we should
>     wait for
>     >> NomCom to tell the working group who the co-chair candidates are
>     (before we
>     >> start the questioning)? For future PDWG elections, the questions
>     could be
>     >> included as part of the information to provide during the nominations
>     >> stage. Or maybe some have already been asked by NomCom and the
>     candidates
>     >> only need to decide what they wish to share with us.
>     >> >>>>>
>     >> >>>>> One would imagine that the Elections Committee already has
>     a plan
>     >> for incorporating remote participants who will naturally expect to
>     >> participate in the co-chair selection as allowed by the PDP.
>     >> >>>>>
>     >> >>>>> Regards,
>     >> >>>>> Dewole.
>     >> >>>>>
>     >> >>>>>> On 6/8/2019 10:07 PM, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote:
>     >> >>>>>> Hi Dewole, all,
>     >> >>>>>>
>     >> >>>>>> I will agree with your suggestion, it is very important to
>     keep
>     >> continuity of the existing co-chairs.
>     >> >>>>>>
>     >> >>>>>> Also, I think to avoid wasting precious time, it may be
>     good to
>     >> consider running the election at the end of the open mic, so even
>     if the
>     >> election process is delayed for whatever, reason, the PDP
>     discussion time
>     >> is respected.
>     >> >>>>>>
>     >> >>>>>> One of the elected co-chairs will be running for just one
>     year, or
>     >> how it will be handled in order to get the staggered terms?
>     >> >>>>>>
>     >> >>>>>> Finally, I've a question for the NomCom and the PDP-chair
>     >> candidates. And I think this is very important for a successful
>     knowledge
>     >> by the community to whom they are electing. This is not about
>     electing
>     >> "your best friend for driving a party", but the people that
>     better knows
>     >> the PDP and has already been following it.
>     >> >>>>>>
>     >> >>>>>> So, I will like to know, for each of the candidates, since
>     when
>     >> they have been in the RPD mailing list, how they have contributed
>     in the
>     >> discussions in the list and meetings, or even with policy
>     proposals. How
>     >> the candidates are going to support the PDP, increase community
>     >> participation, etc. Also, we need to understand if they have actively
>     >> supported or non-supported any of the actual policy proposals, so
>     we can
>     >> avoid electing two chairs that may have a bias on the same policy
>     proposal.
>     >> >>>>>>
>     >> >>>>>> Reading the actual CVs at
>     >> https://www.afrinic.net/candidate-slate-for-pdwg-election-2019, I
>     don't
>     >> think all the candidates have that information right now.
>     >> >>>>>>
>     >> >>>>>> So, can the NomCom prepare a document answering (with verified
>     >> responses to some extent) those questions for each of the
>     candidate and
>     >> publish it together with the CVs ?
>     >> >>>>>>
>     >> >>>>>> Regards,
>     >> >>>>>> Jordi
>     >> >>>>>> ?El 8/6/19 21:10, "Dewole Ajao" <dewole at forum.org.ng
>     <mailto:dewole at forum.org.ng>> escribi?:
>     >> >>>>>>
>     >> >>>>>>    A simple solution to clear any confusion would be for the
>     >> Nomination
>     >> >>>>>>    Committee to send out a fresh announcement listing the
>     final
>     >> slate of
>     >> >>>>>>    candidates after their considerations have been done.
>     >> >>>>>>         Elections Committee should at this point also
>     state how
>     >> the seats would
>     >> >>>>>>    be filled so that everyone is clear about that. There
>     have been
>     >> >>>>>>    suggestions on how to fill the positions; better to
>     sort them
>     >> out now
>     >> >>>>>>    rather than waste scarce time on the policy day.
>     >> >>>>>>         My suggestion (and I may be biased) is this:
>     >> >>>>>>    Since a current co-chair (Sami) is running, show of
>     hands to
>     >> see if the
>     >> >>>>>>    working group is in support of Sami retaining his seat. If
>     >> majority in
>     >> >>>>>>    support of Sami continuing, then remainder of the
>     election is
>     >> for one
>     >> >>>>>>    seat going to whichever of the remaining candidates has the
>     >> maximum votes.
>     >> >>>>>>         If the outcome of the first vote is not in favour of
>     >> current co-chair
>     >> >>>>>>    taking a seat by default, then second round of voting
>     can be
>     >> for 2 seats
>     >> >>>>>>    possibly using the option of higher votes getting the
>     longer
>     >> term.
>     >> >>>>>>         Again, this is just my point of view.
>     >> >>>>>>         Regards,
>     >> >>>>>>         Dewole.
>     >> >>>>>>>         On 6/8/2019 5:25 PM, Ish Sookun wrote:
>     >> >>>>>>> Hi Serge,
>     >> >>>>>>>
>     >> >>>>>>>> On 6/8/19 2:21 PM, Iyedi Goma wrote:
>     >> >>>>>>>> The Nomination Committee reviewed the nomination of the
>     persons
>     >> who
>     >> >>>>>>>> submitted their documentation.  The Nomination Committee
>     Chair
>     >> contacted
>     >> >>>>>>>> each nominee to notify him/her of the decision.
>     >> >>>>>>>>
>     >> >>>>>>> Is this particular update referring to all the nominees,
>     nominees
>     >> that
>     >> >>>>>>> complained or only nominees that remained after the
>     NomCom filter.
>     >> >>>>>>>
>     >> >>>>>>> The text "persons who submitted their documentation"
>     requires more
>     >> >>>>>>> clarity IMHO.
>     >> >>>>>>>
>     >> >>>>>>> Regards,
>     >> >>>>>>>
>     >> >>>>>>> Ish Sookun
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>     >> Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2019 09:05:12 +0300 (EAT)
>     >> From: Pascal ANDRIANISA <pascal at irenala.edu.mg
>     <mailto:pascal at irenala.edu.mg>>
>     >> To: ishola kabir <isholakabir at gmail.com
>     <mailto:isholakabir at gmail.com>>
>     >> Cc: rpd at afrinic.net <mailto:rpd at afrinic.net>
>     >> Subject: Re: [rpd] IPV4 inter-RIR Legacy Resources Transfer.
>     >> Message-ID:
>     >>       
>      <1103848571.189374.1560837912327.JavaMail.zimbra at irenala.edumg
>     <mailto:1103848571.189374.1560837912327.JavaMail.zimbra at irenala.edu.mg>>
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>     >>
>     >> Dear Ishola Kabir,
>     >> I think the transfer of inter-RIR does not benefit AFRINIC for
>     the simple
>     >> reason that AFRINIC's resources are not enough for its region.
>     >>
>     >> Regard,
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> Pascal Heriliva ANDRIANISA
>     >> Webmaster i RENALA
>     >> R esearch and E ducation N etwork for A cademic and L earning A
>     ctivities
>     >> - [ http://www.irenala.edu.mg/ | http://www.irenala.edu.mg/ ]
>     >> Porte 201 - Minist?re de l'Enseignement Sup?rieur et de la Recherche
>     >> Scientifique - Fiadanana
>     >> GSM :+261 (0) 32 46 680 29 | +261 (0) 34 30 680 29
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> De: "ishola kabir" <isholakabir at gmail.com
>     <mailto:isholakabir at gmail.com>>
>     >> ?: rpd at afrinic.net <mailto:rpd at afrinic.net>
>     >> Envoy?: Lundi 17 Juin 2019 17:17:58
>     >> Objet: Re: [rpd] IPV4 inter-RIR Legacy Resources Transfer.
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> I stand to support the policy on proposal of IPV4 inter-RIR legacy
>     >> resources transfer.
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> We're running out of IPV4 resources and the Regional Internet
>     Registries
>     >> (RIRs) have started to run out of of IPV4 resources as well. IPv4
>     inter-RIR
>     >> legacy resources from and to other regions will offer a realistic
>     solution
>     >> to the problem of reclaiming the significant amount of unused IPV4
>     >> resources and allocating them to their most efficient users. The
>     transfer
>     >> will be subject to the need to main route aggregation and allow
>     resources
>     >> not in used in one region to be transferred to a region where it
>     is needed.
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> Preventing IPv4 Inter-RIR Legacy Resource Transfers would only
>     push the
>     >> demand and supply pressures surrounding the scarcity of resources
>     into
>     >> different channel such as the holder of this unused resources will do
>     >> everything within their power for continued possession of this
>     resources
>     >> for purpose of black market, increase their value in an acquisition.
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> Inter-RIR Legacy would definitely allows organization willing to
>     release
>     >> address resources to benefit monetarily by selling them to
>     another region
>     >> who wants them subject to the record keeping requirements and
>     regulation of
>     >> inter regional legacy instead of being hijacked or use without
>     >> authorization.
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> It is very obvious that the risk associated with this will be
>     very small
>     >> when compare to the potential benefit and this will also reinforce
>     >> effectiveness of the inter Regional Internet Address Registries
>     in global
>     >> internet governance.
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
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>     >> Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2019 09:19:24 +0200
>     >> From: Mark Elkins <mje at posix.co.za <mailto:mje at posix.co.za>>
>     >> To: rpd at afrinic.net <mailto:rpd at afrinic.net>
>     >> Subject: Re: [rpd] IPV4 inter-RIR Legacy Resources Transfer.
>     >> Message-ID: <e927753c-91b9-364f-ba24-22613d8fc362 at posix.co.za
>     <mailto:e927753c-91b9-364f-ba24-22613d8fc362 at posix.co.za>>
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>     >>
>     >> IPv4 resources were never enough for the world (Four-ish billion IP
>     >> addresses). That's why IPv6 was created. The other four RIR's have
>     >> basically run out of IPv4 - which to an extent has forced them to
>     adopt
>     >> IPv6. In a perverse way - its actually bad for Africa to NOT have run
>     >> out as we lazily continue to deploy IPv4 - last years technology as
>     >> such.. Better to move straight to IPv6 before we are too weighed
>     down by
>     >> the legacy restrictiveness of IPv4 addresses.
>     >>
>     >> Also - the Transfer Policy would generally need to be
>     bidirectional so
>     >> that other RIR regions will allow the transfer of IPv4 resources into
>     >> Africa - that is, play on an equal footing - if indeed some of the
>     >> larger African ISP's need to acquire more IPv4 addresses.
>     >>
>     >> If an African LIR/ISP does sell IPv4 resources to another region then
>     >> the capitol will probably be used to expand that LIR's business -
>     >> presumably in an IPv6 direction - which would be beneficial to that
>     >> LIR's customers and to an extent, the rest of our community.
>     >>
>     >> Just think, for the first time ever, we get to dump old
>     technology onto
>     >> "developed" countries rather than the other way around.
>     >>
>     >> On 2019/06/18 08:05, Pascal ANDRIANISA wrote:
>     >> > Dear Ishola Kabir, I think the transfer of inter-RIR does not
>     benefit
>     >> > AFRINIC for the simple reason that AFRINIC's resources are not
>     enough
>     >> > for its region. Regard,
>     >> >
>     >> > *Pascal* Heriliva ANDRIANISA
>     >> > Webmaster i RENALA
>     >> > *R*esearch and *E*ducation *N*etwork for *A*cademic and *L*earning
>     >> > *A*ctivities - http://www.irenala.edu.mg/
>     >> > Porte 201 - Minist?re de l'Enseignement Sup?rieur et de la
>     Recherche
>     >> > Scientifique - Fiadanana_
>     >> > GSM :+261 (0) 32 46 680 29?? |??? +261 (0) 34 30 680 29_
>     >> >
>     >> >
>     >> >
>     >> >
>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>     >> > *De: *"ishola kabir" <isholakabir at gmail.com
>     <mailto:isholakabir at gmail.com>>
>     >> > *?: *rpd at afrinic.net <mailto:rpd at afrinic.net>
>     >> > *Envoy?: *Lundi 17 Juin 2019 17:17:58
>     >> > *Objet: *Re: [rpd] IPV4 inter-RIR Legacy Resources Transfer.
>     >> >
>     >> >
>     >> > I stand to support the policy on proposal of IPV4 inter-RIR legacy
>     >> > resources transfer.
>     >> >
>     >> > We're running out of IPV4 resources and the Regional Internet
>     >> > Registries (RIRs) have started to run out of of IPV4 resources as
>     >> > well. IPv4 inter-RIR legacy resources from and to other regions
>     will
>     >> > offer a realistic solution to the problem of reclaiming the
>     >> > significant amount of unused IPV4 resources and allocating them to
>     >> > their most efficient users. The transfer will be subject to the
>     need
>     >> > to main route aggregation and allow resources not in used in one
>     >> > region to be transferred to a region where it is needed.
>     >> >
>     >> > Preventing IPv4 Inter-RIR Legacy Resource Transfers would only push
>     >> > the demand ?and supply pressures surrounding the scarcity of
>     resources
>     >> > into different channel such as the holder of this unused resources
>     >> > will do everything within their power for continued possession
>     of this
>     >> > resources for purpose of black market, increase their value in an
>     >> > acquisition.
>     >> >
>     >> > Inter-RIR Legacy would definitely allows organization willing to
>     >> > release address resources to benefit monetarily by selling them to
>     >> > another region who wants them subject to the record keeping
>     >> > requirements and regulation of inter regional legacy instead of
>     being
>     >> > hijacked or use without authorization.
>     >> >
>     >> > It is very obvious that the risk associated with this will be very
>     >> > small when compare to the potential benefit and this will also
>     >> > reinforce effectiveness of the inter Regional Internet Address
>     >> > Registries in global internet governance.
>     >> >
>     >> >
>     >> >
>     >> >
>     >> >
>     >> >
>     >> >
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