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[rpd] IPV4 inter-RIR Legacy Resources Transfer.

Mark Elkins mje at
Tue Jun 18 07:19:24 UTC 2019

IPv4 resources were never enough for the world (Four-ish billion IP 
addresses). That's why IPv6 was created. The other four RIR's have 
basically run out of IPv4 - which to an extent has forced them to adopt 
IPv6. In a perverse way - its actually bad for Africa to NOT have run 
out as we lazily continue to deploy IPv4 - last years technology as 
such.. Better to move straight to IPv6 before we are too weighed down by 
the legacy restrictiveness of IPv4 addresses.

Also - the Transfer Policy would generally need to be bidirectional so 
that other RIR regions will allow the transfer of IPv4 resources into 
Africa - that is, play on an equal footing - if indeed some of the 
larger African ISP's need to acquire more IPv4 addresses.

If an African LIR/ISP does sell IPv4 resources to another region then 
the capitol will probably be used to expand that LIR's business - 
presumably in an IPv6 direction - which would be beneficial to that 
LIR's customers and to an extent, the rest of our community.

Just think, for the first time ever, we get to dump old technology onto 
"developed" countries rather than the other way around.

On 2019/06/18 08:05, Pascal ANDRIANISA wrote:
> Dear Ishola Kabir, I think the transfer of inter-RIR does not benefit 
> AFRINIC for the simple reason that AFRINIC's resources are not enough 
> for its region. Regard,
> *Pascal* Heriliva ANDRIANISA
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> *De: *"ishola kabir" <isholakabir at>
> *À: *rpd at
> *Envoyé: *Lundi 17 Juin 2019 17:17:58
> *Objet: *Re: [rpd] IPV4 inter-RIR Legacy Resources Transfer.
> I stand to support the policy on proposal of IPV4 inter-RIR legacy 
> resources transfer.
> We're running out of IPV4 resources and the Regional Internet 
> Registries (RIRs) have started to run out of of IPV4 resources as 
> well. IPv4 inter-RIR legacy resources from and to other regions will 
> offer a realistic solution to the problem of reclaiming the 
> significant amount of unused IPV4 resources and allocating them to 
> their most efficient users. The transfer will be subject to the need 
> to main route aggregation and allow resources not in used in one 
> region to be transferred to a region where it is needed.
> Preventing IPv4 Inter-RIR Legacy Resource Transfers would only push 
> the demand  and supply pressures surrounding the scarcity of resources 
> into different channel such as the holder of this unused resources 
> will do everything within their power for continued possession of this 
> resources for purpose of black market, increase their value in an 
> acquisition.
> Inter-RIR Legacy would definitely allows organization willing to 
> release address resources to benefit monetarily by selling them to 
> another region who wants them subject to the record keeping 
> requirements and regulation of inter regional legacy instead of being 
> hijacked or use without authorization.
> It is very obvious that the risk associated with this will be very 
> small when compare to the potential benefit and this will also 
> reinforce effectiveness of the inter Regional Internet Address 
> Registries in global internet governance.
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Mark James ELKINS  -  Posix Systems - (South) Africa
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