[rpd] Nomcom feedback to PDWG

[ABDULKARIM AYOPO OLOYEDE]

Hello,
I would like tosuggested a fair voting method which is being used by  RIPE.
This method is also used by the ITU and other reputable organisations. Let
me try and explain it with out own situation.

In the election, there were two seats to be filled. A candidate needed more
than 50% to be elected to the board. If no candidate received more than
50%, the candidate with the fewest first preference votes was eliminated
from the count and their next preference votes transferred to the other
candidates. This process would be repeated until one of the candidates had
more than 50% of the votes. The same system applied for both seats, with
the candidate who won the first seat excluded for the second seat.”
This allow for fairness and allow for the community to eliminate candidates
gradually. Therefore whoever emerges must have the backing of the community
rather than simple majority which in some cases does  not reflect the
majority
Thanks
Abdulkarim

On Sun, 9 Jun 2019, 13:39 JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via RPD, <rpd at afrinic.net>
wrote:

> Exactly !
>
> I fully agree, I wonder how come we have an election process outside of
> the PDP, this is totally broken.
>
> Has the community formally adopted it, when, and how?
>
> Regards,
> Jordi
>
>
>
> El 9/6/19 10:51, "Dewole Ajao" <dewole at forum.org.ng> escribió:
>
>     I was going to reply to say there are no standing rules on conduct of
>     PDWG elections but I see from the CPM that the PDP election process
>     somehow seems to have evolved. Can someone in the know please clarify
>     how we came about the detailed election notes outlined at
>     https://afrinic.net/policy/development-working-group#election ? This
> is
>     bearing in mind that changes to the PDP can only be done via the PDP.
>
>     My suggestion about giving the working group the option of retaining
> the
>     current co-chair was an attempt to avoid 2 co-chairs leaving after the
>     same meeting. Note that my suggested process allows the working group
>     members present (who are the deciders of who becomes co-chair) the
>     option of rejecting the default seat retention.
>
>     In any case, all of this is speculation as a result of the NomCom
> asking
>     us what we think. At this point, it is over to Elections Committee to
>     tell us how they intend to handle this.
>
>     Regards,
>
>     Dewole.
>
>
>
>
>     On 6/8/2019 11:31 PM, Daniel Yakmut wrote:
>     > I want to believe that we have standing rules on who is qualify to
> be voted and how our elections should be conducted. I hope we not trying to
> define new rules here.
>     >
>     > We should stick to the rules and all candidates regardless should be
> given a level playing field. i don't subscribe to allowing anyone giving
> any special consideration.
>     >
>     > In particular I believe that all the candidates that are
> volunteering, could possibly some fresh air to the conduct of the PWDG. So
> let us not disadvantage anyone.
>     >
>     > So far NomCom have shown commitment to  a fair process and
> maintaining that going forward will be important.
>     >
>     > Simply,
>     > Danile
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > On Jun 8, 2019, at 11:06 PM, Dewole Ajao <dewole at forum.org.ng>
> wrote:
>     >
>     >> Sorry, the election slot is missing from the draft agenda I shared
> earlier. It may be inefficient to have election at the start of the policy
> day so it is planned to hold towards the end of the day. Holding the
> election before the open mic will allow working group members also provide
> feedback on the process during the open mic.
>     >>
>     >> The contents of
> https://www.afrinic.net/candidate-slate-for-pdwg-election-2019 remain
> unchanged from the pre-protest announcement. Perhaps we should wait for
> NomCom to tell the working group who the co-chair candidates are (before we
> start the questioning)? For future PDWG elections, the questions could be
> included as part of the information to provide during the nominations
> stage. Or maybe some have already been asked by NomCom and the candidates
> only need to decide what they wish to share with us.
>     >>
>     >> One would imagine that the Elections Committee already has a plan
> for incorporating remote participants who will naturally expect to
> participate in the co-chair selection as allowed by the PDP.
>     >>
>     >> Regards,
>     >> Dewole.
>     >>
>     >> On 6/8/2019 10:07 PM, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote:
>     >>> Hi Dewole, all,
>     >>>
>     >>> I will agree with your suggestion, it is very important to keep
> continuity of the existing co-chairs.
>     >>>
>     >>> Also, I think to avoid wasting precious time, it may be good to
> consider running the election at the end of the open mic, so even if the
> election process is delayed for whatever, reason, the PDP discussion time
> is respected.
>     >>>
>     >>> One of the elected co-chairs will be running for just one year, or
> how it will be handled in order to get the staggered terms?
>     >>>
>     >>> Finally, I've a question for the NomCom and the PDP-chair
> candidates. And I think this is very important for a successful knowledge
> by the community to whom they are electing. This is not about electing
> "your best friend for driving a party", but the people that better knows
> the PDP and has already been following it.
>     >>>
>     >>> So, I will like to know, for each of the candidates, since when
> they have been in the RPD mailing list, how they have contributed in the
> discussions in the list and meetings, or even with policy proposals. How
> the candidates are going to support the PDP, increase community
> participation, etc. Also, we need to understand if they have actively
> supported or non-supported any of the actual policy proposals, so we can
> avoid electing two chairs that may have a bias on the same policy proposal.
>     >>>
>     >>> Reading the actual CVs at
> https://www.afrinic.net/candidate-slate-for-pdwg-election-2019, I don't
> think all the candidates have that information right now.
>     >>>
>     >>> So, can the NomCom prepare a document answering (with verified
> responses to some extent) those questions for each of the candidate and
> publish it together with the CVs ?
>     >>>
>     >>> Regards,
>     >>> Jordi
>     >>>
>     >>> El 8/6/19 21:10, "Dewole Ajao" <dewole at forum.org.ng> escribió:
>     >>>
>     >>>      A simple solution to clear any confusion would be for the
> Nomination
>     >>>      Committee to send out a fresh announcement listing the final
> slate of
>     >>>      candidates after their considerations have been done.
>     >>>           Elections Committee should at this point also state how
> the seats would
>     >>>      be filled so that everyone is clear about that. There have
> been
>     >>>      suggestions on how to fill the positions; better to sort them
> out now
>     >>>      rather than waste scarce time on the policy day.
>     >>>           My suggestion (and I may be biased) is this:
>     >>>      Since a current co-chair (Sami) is running, show of hands to
> see if the
>     >>>      working group is in support of Sami retaining his seat. If
> majority in
>     >>>      support of Sami continuing, then remainder of the election is
> for one
>     >>>      seat going to whichever of the remaining candidates has the
> maximum votes.
>     >>>           If the outcome of the first vote is not in favour of
> current co-chair
>     >>>      taking a seat by default, then second round of voting can be
> for 2 seats
>     >>>      possibly using the option of higher votes getting the longer
> term.
>     >>>           Again, this is just my point of view.
>     >>>           Regards,
>     >>>           Dewole.
>     >>>           On 6/8/2019 5:25 PM, Ish Sookun wrote:
>     >>>      > Hi Serge,
>     >>>      >
>     >>>      > On 6/8/19 2:21 PM, Iyedi Goma wrote:
>     >>>      >> The Nomination Committee reviewed the nomination of the
> persons who
>     >>>      >> submitted their documentation.  The Nomination Committee
> Chair contacted
>     >>>      >> each nominee to notify him/her of the decision.
>     >>>      >>
>     >>>      > Is this particular update referring to all the nominees,
> nominees that
>     >>>      > complained or only nominees that remained after the NomCom
> filter.
>     >>>      >
>     >>>      > The text "persons who submitted their documentation"
> requires more
>     >>>      > clarity IMHO.
>     >>>      >
>     >>>      > Regards,
>     >>>      >
>     >>>      > Ish Sookun
>     >>>      >
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