[rpd] RPD : Prolicy proposal "Internet Number Resources review by AFRINIC" informations update

[Omo Oaiya]

> On 15 May 2019, at 20:44, Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com> wrote:
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>> On May 15, 2019, at 12:24 AM, Omo Oaiya <Omo.Oaiya at wacren.net <mailto:Omo.Oaiya at wacren.net>> wrote:
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>>> On 14 May 2019, at 20:26, Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com <mailto:owen at delong.com>> wrote:
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>>>> On 14 May 2019, at 09:34, Marcus K. G. Adomey <madomey at hotmail.com <mailto:madomey at hotmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> The whole point of the review is to determine compliance which means  usage of INR and there is no way INR which have been determined to be in usage by  legitimate users through the said review would be revoked to cause denial of service to end users. There is just no way.
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>>> Sure there is… Poor record keeping… The resources may well be in valid use, but the ISP in question fails to properly account for that use during a review and the resources are, therefore reclaimed.
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>>> Point to the section of your proposal where that is prevented?
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>> I see this section of the proposal that caters adequately for this.   I note that in all cases opportunity is given to rectify issues except if there’s fraud 
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>> 13.4 In case of non-compliance and if evidence has been established in accordance with:
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>> •    Breach of AFRINIC policies
>> •    Breach of the provisions of the registration service agreement or other legal agreements between the organization holding the resource and AFRINIC.
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>> AFRNIC shall initiate the resource recovery process.
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>> A) AFRINIC shall attempt to contact the organization and correct any discrepancy towards the RSA. Except in cases of fraudulent resource acquisition or unlawful usage and abuse, the organization shall be given a minimum of six months to effect the return of the resources.
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>> If the organization is cooperative and working in good faith to substantially restore compliance or has a valid need for additional time to renumber out of the affected blocks, AFRINIC shall negotiate a longer term. The acceptance level of compliance and duration of the longer term are at AFRINIC staff discretion.
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> I don’t think that is adequate at all… That says that poor record keeping means you still lose your resources, you just get 6 months to hand them back.
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> If you rectify the record keeping, you should get to keep your resources.
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> What am I missing?
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> Owen
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Not sure why it is unclear.   You only return resources when you cannot show legitimate use.  My understanding of this section is that:

- It says with poor record keeping, AFRINIC contacts you to fix.   
- If the records cannot be fixed and it is NOT fraud, you get minimum of six months to return.  
- If the org is acting in good faith and 6 months not enough to do fix, and reasons are acceptable to team AFRINIC (and this might also include making sure no unwitting 3rd party suffers unduly), they can extend at their discretion.

HTH
Omo
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