[rpd] Opposing the last call made on the review policy

[McTim]

I agree with Owen an all of the items stated below.

Best Regards,

McTim

On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 6:33 PM Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Dec 3, 2018, at 14:54 , Gregoire Ehoumi via RPD <rpd at afrinic.net>
> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> There is no provision in the curent PDP which mandates, updates/revisions
> to a proposal  before it got presented at a PPM. The agenda was published
> and as expected, no one objected...here we see another incentive for
> PDP-BIS  which defines a clear lifecycle of proposal?
>
> Nobody is questioning this. Nobody (that I have seen so far) is objecting
> to the proposal being discussed at the meeting.
>
> What is being objected to is the proposal being declared as having
> consensus and sent to last call when none of the outstanding objections
> from Dakar were addressed, no updates were made to the proposal, and a
> plethora of objections were raised at Hammamet, including some which were
> repeated from Dakar.
>
> I find it curious that a policy  proposal which aims to improve resource
> usage, provide better accountability within an RIR ecosystem  raises so
> much controversy.
>
> Perhaps this is because many of us do not believe that the policy will
> have a result that is at all consistent with the stated intent above
> (which, btw, does not entirely match the problem statement in the proposal
> itself).
>
> Members sign RSA which bind them to such review,  but when it comes to
> defining a community consensus approach to the review, it becomes stormy
>
> The review in the RSA does not allow for any random party to force AfriNIC
> to initiate such a costly and burdensome process against any particular
> member without probable cause to do so. The proposed policy does.
>
> Are we afraid of enforcement of new policy and not of the RSA?
>
> There are significant differences between the RSA and the proposal. The
> proposal goes significantly further and eliminates several avenues for
> avoiding a costly and burdensome process which are left open in the RSA.
> The arguments against this proposal are not being made (to the best of my
> knowledge) by people who are hoarding resources and would not at the end of
> such a review be found to be in full compliance. However, the cost of the
> review process for any organization with a significant network is
> significant both in time and money.
>
> I hope this clarifies the reason for some of the objections and allows you
> to see the deep and meaningful flaws in the proposal as it currently stands.
>
> Authors have claimed congruity in this proposal with the existing policy
> in the ARIN region. The policy in the ARIN region was not put forth to
> grant extraordinary additional powers of review to the ARIN staff. It was
> put forth to place strict limits on those powers. There are differences in
> this proposal which achieve the exact opposite of that.
>
> Owen
>
>
> --Gregoire
>
> ------ Original message------
> *From: *Ernest Byaruhanga
> *Date: *Mon, Dec 3, 2018 6:02 AM
> *To: *Nishal Goburdhan;
> *Cc: *rpd;
> *Subject:*Re: [rpd] Opposing the last call made on the review policy
>
> Nishal,
>
> > have there been any updates to this policy since the previous meeting.
>
> No.
>
> Version 6 was received on 10 April 2018, and no newer version thereafter.
>
> More info:https://www.afrinic.net/policy/2016-gen-001-d6#details
>
> Ernest.
>
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Cheers,

McTim
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*where* it is, and a 'route' tells us *how to get there*.
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