[rpd] Inter-RIR Resource

Tue Nov 27 15:51:15 UTC 2018

I think those stats, taken from half a year ago, don’t make sense anymore (deployment keeps increasing everywhere) … anyway, I don’t think is so relevant.

If AfriNIC doesn't allocate more IPv4 addresses in the next exhaustion phase, some companies will deploy more levels of NAT, which is bad for all and expensive for the ISP.

Some others will deploy IPv6.

Sometimes, for deploying IPv6, you may need small pools of IPv4. For example, for a NAT64 if you go to 464XLAT, which is what all the rest of the world is doing. If there are no more IPv4 addresses in the region, the few left addresses will go more and more and more expensive.

So even deploying IPv6 may require some more addresses. If we don’t have a policy like this, how AfriNIC ISPs are going to do it? They could just reuse existing addresses and several levels of NAT: More expensive, worst for the users, worst for the ISP (increased logging cost), works for fighting against cybercrime.

Not good!

Regards,

Jordi

De: Omo Oaiya <Omo.Oaiya at wacren.net>
Fecha: martes, 27 de noviembre de 2018, 15:15
Para: ABDULKARIM AYOPO OLOYEDE <oloyede.aa at unilorin.edu.ng>
CC: <rpd at afrinic.net>
Asunto: Re: [rpd] Inter-RIR Resource

I don’t agree …. we have to work harder to increase IPv6 uptake but the data available does not support these theories

See https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/05/21/ipv6_growth_is_slowing_and_no_one_knows_why/

I don’t see how this policy helps the AFRINIC community and do not support it.

Omo

On 27 Nov 2018, at 08:46, ABDULKARIM AYOPO OLOYEDE <oloyede.aa at unilorin.edu.ng> wrote:

I kind off agree with Daniel Yakmut. This might be the way to force IPV6 into the Africa. Some part of me is also feels it has to be done carefully. 

Thanks

Dr. Abdulkarim A.Oloyede. B. Eng (BUK), M.Sc (York), PhD (York), R.Eng, A+

Senior Lecturer, Department of Telecommunications Science, University of Ilorin, Nigeria

Vice Chairman, Telecommunications  Development Advisory Group (TDAG), International Telecommunication Union (ITU).

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On Tue, 27 Nov 2018, 10:08 Daniel Yakmut via RPD <rpd at afrinic.net wrote:

The support for Inter-RIR Resource Transfer could also be seen in the light  that it could also motivate and possibly be a catalyst for rapid deployment for IPv6. I want to argue that the thought that there are still a small pool of IPv4 available, makes users in the AfriNIC region slower in considering the option of deployment of IPv6. Therefore I will support a fast way of exhaustion, which also can be achieved through Inter-RIR transfer. 

By the way we have argued that IP is a global resource that we can share globally. Similarly, in some instances the entities that seek this transfer could be deploying infrastructure that is beneficial to the AfriNIC region.  In the business context, keeping IPs and waiting for slow uptake, can not be financially beneficial. So a transfer to an entity that needs it urgently will be provide the immediate finances, which I believe we need in the AfriNIC region.

So my point here is that we should support the Inter-RIR Resource transfer.

On Nov 25, 2018, at 3:41 PM, Taiwo Oyewande <taiwo.oyewande88 at gmail.com> wrote:

Inter-RIR Resource Transfers as stated in the policy AFPUB-2018-GEN-003-DRAFT01 is an applauded development and I think will help promote business within LIRs and also help in the speedy deployment and acceptance of IPV6 in Africa. Afrinic has commenced Exhaustion phase 1, but is still an IPV4 haven compared to other RIRs based on the Internet number resource status report prepared by the RIRs https://ripe77.ripe.net/presentations/145-18-0903-NRO-Statistics-2018.pdf. This is bad for development as most RIRs are now more focused on IPV6 deployment. Some RIRs have exhausted their IPV4 blocks and require IP blocks from neighboring RIRs. With this policy well implemented, Afrinic and LIRs will make substantial profit while Afrinic forces the needful development to the new internet, which is the IPV6.

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