[rpd] New Policy Proposal - Inter-RIR Resource Transfers (AFPUB-2018-GEN-003-DRAFT01 )

Wed Nov 14 20:19:50 UTC 2018

My understanding is that is going to be in the other way around, and that’s why I did this proposal that way.

However, at the end, despite if there are more legacy resources in one side or the other, it will depend on how many operations are done in each direction.

Regards,

Jordi

De: Paschal Ochang <pascosoft at gmail.com>
Fecha: miércoles, 14 de noviembre de 2018, 21:10
Para: <rpd at afrinic.net>
Asunto: [rpd] New Policy Proposal - Inter-RIR Resource Transfers (AFPUB-2018-GEN-003-DRAFT01 )

If they are still legacy ipv4 addresses out there then we need to balance the quota of legacy resource inflow and outflow as it currently seems like Africa has more legacy ipv4 resources to harvest from. Correct me if I am wrong but I think other RIRs stand to benefit more from this policy than Africa.
On Thursday, November 8, 2018, Lee Howard <lee.howard at retevia.net> wrote:

I haven't done my own analysis, but I'm told there are still thousands of legacy Class B's (/16s) that are unrouted or under-utilized.

Lee

On 11/8/18 7:11 AM, Daniel Yakmut via RPD wrote:

The question generally is there any legacy IPv4 outside AfriNIC region that is not in use and could possibly be moved freely to Africa? I doubt. Hence, I don't see the need for this statement.

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From: "JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via RPD" <rpd at afrinic.net>
To: "Marcus K. G. Adomey" <madomey at hotmail.com>, "RPD" <rpd at afrinic.net>, "Sami Salih" <sami.salih at outlook.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2018 5:13:00 PM
Subject: Re: [rpd] New Policy Proposal - Inter-RIR Resource Transfers (AFPUB-2018-GEN-003-DRAFT01)

Hi Marcus,

I’ve changed the subject so it is not confusing …

First of all, thanks for your inputs!

I recall the previous proposals, and I’m trying with this proposal, precisely, to protect the AfriNIC resources, but at the same time allow this region to participate in the global market and ensure that any operations are registered instead of happening under the table.

However, I have the feeling that you’re interpreting the text on the other way around.

This proposal is facilitating * any * IPv4 (and ASN) resources from other regions to be transferred to AfriNIC.

On the other direction * only * legacy IPv4 (and ASN) resources can be transferred from AfriNIC to other RIRs.

I will encourage you to read it again, and tell us where you believe that my text is broken so you are misunderstanding it, and ten I can do a better work in a new version.

Thanks!

Regards,

Jordi

De: "Marcus K. G. Adomey" <madomey at hotmail.com>
Fecha: jueves, 1 de noviembre de 2018, 16:35
Para: RPD <rpd at afrinic.net>, Sami Salih <sami.salih at outlook.com>
Asunto: Re: [rpd] New Policy Proposal - Simple Update of the PDP (AFPUB-2018-GEN-002-DRAFT01)

Dear Jordi,

I have read the policy proposal you have submitted on October 26, 2018 and titled “Inter-RIR Resource Transfers” with the reference name AFPUB-2018-GEN-003-DRAFT01 [1].

You may recall, the IPv4 inter-RIR transfer proposal was previously discussed and withdrawn as it failed to rally consensus on the problem(s) it was supposed to address for this region.

This proposal stated :

"This Proposal currently does not attempt to address Legacy Resources (IPv4 and ASN's) - that is resources that are in the AFRINIC Region and were acquired before ARIN existed. Legacy Resources may be moved out of the AFRINIC region and redeployed freely. They may however be subject to the receiving RIR's policies."

Later on the community adopted an IPv4 Intra-RIR transfer policy which was implemented recently. The policy stated :

" 5.7.2 IPv4 resources to be transferred must be from an existing AFRINIC members account or from a Legacy Resource Holder in the AFRINIC service region."

Your new proposal uses different rhetoric with more elaborated background and problem statement which is addressing no issue of this community. The problems you put across don’t stand the test of validity. Rather, your draft policy is addressing the issue of lack of IPV4 in the other regions.

Your policy seems to propose inter-RIR transfer for IPV6 and legacy IPV4 and ASN. The need for these in our region is doubtful

I therefore oppose the policy

Thank you,

Marcus Adomey

[1] https :// afrinic.net / en /community/ policy-development / policy-proposals /2539-inter-rir-resource-transfers

[2] https :// afrinic.net /community/ policy-development / policy-proposals /1499-number-resources-transfer-policy

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From: Sami Salih <sami.salih at outlook.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2018 9:37:20 AM
To: rpd
Subject: [rpd] New Policy Proposal - Simple Update of the PDP (AFPUB-2018-GEN-002-DRAFT01)

Dears AFRINIC PDWG Members,

Greetings,

A new new policy proposal has been received and published as follows:

Proposal : Simple Update of the PDP
Ref.No : AFPUB-2018-GEN-002-DRAFT01
Author : Jordi Palet Martinez
Link : https://afrinic.net/en/community/policy-development/policy-proposals/2535-simple-update-of-the-pdp

Your participation and contribution are welcome.

Sincerely,

PDWG Co-chairs

Dr. Sami H.O. Salih
Assistant Prof, School of Electronics Engineering, SUST
Head of R&D, NTC, SUDAN
President of SDv6TF
T/F: (249)122045707/187171355

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