[rpd] Timeline for handling AFPUB-2016-V4-001-DRAFT07 policy appeal

Fri Jan 26 02:29:27 UTC 2018

Dear Community,

What is wrong with the few folks who are anti this policy?

In every situation, they are paddling in opposite direction, disrupting the normal flow of things in the name of having rich experience.

- They are against this policy,
- They are against those who proposed the policy,
- They are against the Co-Chairs,
- They are against the process
- They are against the Board
- They are now meddling with the process of the appeal committee and against its process now.

Do they have a hidden agenda?

God, have mercy!!!

Marcus
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From: Boubakar Barry <boubakarbarry at gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2018 11:14:29 PM
To: Owen DeLong
Cc: rpd List
Subject: Re: [rpd] Timeline for handling AFPUB-2016-V4-001-DRAFT07 policy appeal

To be honest, I don’t understand why we keep wasting time in this.

As many have stated, the Appeal Committee has communicated a timeline.

Why can’t we just wait for the committee to come back to us with its analysis and conclusion?

Too much time wasting here.

Boubakar

On Thu, 25 Jan 2018 at 18:38, Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com<mailto:owen at delong.com>> wrote:
The point is nobody was attacking the committee. We were raising an objection to something we perceived as an improper procedural intent expressed by said committee and requesting that intent be rectified.

No malice, no ad hominem, no attack, no lack of faith, just a simple attempt to correct what we perceived as an error.

Owen

On Jan 25, 2018, at 06:17, Badru Ntege <badru.ntege at nftconsult.com<mailto:badru.ntege at nftconsult.com>> wrote:

Saul

You see we are now all speculating on a potential outcome of the work and then even anticipating consequences of a decision that might not be expected by parties by the “can of worms” statement.

I think right now all that is not at all necessary.

From: Saul Stein <saul at enetworks.co.za<mailto:saul at enetworks.co.za>>
Date: Thursday, January 25, 2018 at 3:26 PM
To: Badru Ntege <badru.ntege at nftconsult.com<mailto:badru.ntege at nftconsult.com>>, Noah <noah at neo.co.tz<mailto:noah at neo.co.tz>>, Kris Seeburn <seeburn.k at gmail.com<mailto:seeburn.k at gmail.com>>
Cc: rpd List <rpd at afrinic.net<mailto:rpd at afrinic.net>>
Subject: RE: [rpd] Timeline for handling AFPUB-2016-V4-001-DRAFT07 policy appeal

Hi

No-one is saying that the committee mustn’t get on with their work, the comments are based on the reference:

>https://www.afrinic.net/images/timeline-2018-01-pdwg-appeal-committee.pdf
>1. Appeal Committee 1st Meeting – 19/01/2018 – week 1
>c. List and request documents from AFRINIC that the Committee deems needed for the Appeal including i. RPD discussion summary on the policy

The points that have been made are that since this is an appeal, the appeal committee should be drawing their own conclusions from the source documents, not other subjective reports and summaries.
We’d hate for the appeal committee to base their responses on summaries as that could lead to a rejection as vital pertinent information might be omitted in the summary. That would open a serious can of worms!

That is the way I see this, if I am incorrect, please correct me (and please, only corrections from the appeal committee members, otherwise its hearsay and not fact.)

My 2c
Saul

From: Badru Ntege [mailto:badru.ntege at nftconsult.com]
Sent: 25 January 2018 01:40 PM
To: Noah <noah at neo.co.tz<mailto:noah at neo.co.tz>>; Kris Seeburn <seeburn.k at gmail.com<mailto:seeburn.k at gmail.com>>
Cc: rpd List <rpd at afrinic.net<mailto:rpd at afrinic.net>>
Subject: Re: [rpd] Timeline for handling AFPUB-2016-V4-001-DRAFT07 policy appeal

Members Members

We are all acting like the end of the world is nigh !!!

We have a committee that we have entrusted as the final Arbitrator.

Lets await the outcome and also be ready to accept the outcome and move on with AfriNIC work.

Regards

From: Noah <noah at neo.co.tz<mailto:noah at neo.co.tz>>
Date: Thursday, January 25, 2018 at 11:58 AM
To: Kris Seeburn <seeburn.k at gmail.com<mailto:seeburn.k at gmail.com>>
Cc: rpd List <rpd at afrinic.net<mailto:rpd at afrinic.net>>
Subject: Re: [rpd] Timeline for handling AFPUB-2016-V4-001-DRAFT07 policy appeal

On 25 Jan 2018 11:49 a.m., "Kris Seeburn" <seeburn.k at gmail.com<mailto:seeburn.k at gmail.com>> wrote:
I am not going going in circles i have faith that the independent appeals committee is gona do the job. But i’d prefer they do in in their own mind not to involve others such as staff to come to conclusion. But i’m saying i support them without them being influenced that’s my only issue. The people in the committee are laudable and respected by the community. I dont doubt that at all. But not to be influenced by emails, staff, or board. Thats what everyone wants.

OK

And am waiting to see something right.

You are doubting still.

Anyways, what is that something right?

Which would raise afrinic’s place in the RIR space.

Was AFRINIC place is the RIR space low which needs raising? [1]

Noah

[1]IMHO, AFRINIC has done a great job since its inception unless if you think otherwise. We should all be proud.

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