[rpd] RPD Digest, Vol 135, Issue 97

Tue Dec 19 07:08:15 UTC 2017

Dear All,
I think there are better ways of resolving issues. I think we are taking
this to a level that would lead to a serious divisions and personal
conflicts.

Please and Please let us find a common ground.

I personally think the decisions of the Chairs are not helping. We need to
accommodate others view as much as we can.

On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 5:53 AM, <rpd-request at afrinic.net> wrote:

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> Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2017 23:56:02 +0000
> From: Andrew Alston <Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com>
> To: Noah <noah at neo.co.tz>
> Cc: AfriNIC Board of Directors' List <board at afrinic.net>, rpd
>         <rpd at afrinic.net>, "ceo at afrinic.net" <ceo at afrinic.net>
> Subject: Re: [rpd] Two more petitioners
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> Noah - please go and read his previous post to this list - and read this
> and that email together in context.
>
> He blatantly used the term neo colonialism in the past one - there was
> nothing ambiguous about it
>
> These emails need to be read together in context - he is deliberately
> attacking a part of the community that contributes in excess of 30% of the
> Afrinic revenue - he is making statements with no citation that are
> divisive in nature - he has accused South Africans of neo colonialism in
> blunt terms - and I have had enough. Is statements are drastically
> inaccurate and do not take into account the hundreds of millions of dollars
> invested in infrastructure outside of ZA.
>
> The implications are pretty damn clear - and I am sick of it.  Are we one
> continent or not? Are we one Afrinic or not? Are we all African or not?
>
> I say yes - South African - Kenyan - Tanzanian - Nigerian - Senegalese -
> Togo - doesn't matter - every single member pays his dues and all opinions
> are equal - and if we choose to divide - that is the day that any dream of
> a United afrinic is dead - and that is what his emails seem to seek
>
> Andrew
>
>
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> From: Noah <noah at neo.co.tz>
> Sent: Monday, December 18, 2017 6:41:37 PM
> To: Andrew Alston
> Cc: Jackson Muthili; AfriNIC Board of Directors' List; rpd;
> ceo at afrinic.net
> Subject: Re: [rpd] Two more petitioners
>
> Andrew
>
> Be specific, what exactly did Jackson say that "introduced a racially
> biased context." and in what way specifically has he made "accusations of
> Neo colonialism "?
>
> Noah
>
> On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 12:55 AM, Andrew Alston <
> Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com<mailto:Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com>>
> wrote:
> While I am sorely tempted to respond point to point in your email and give
> you a lesson in facts - I will not dignify this nonesense with such.
>
> I will however say this - this is the second time you have introduced a
> racially biased context into the PDP - and discounted the will of a
> significant portion of the member base - based of blatant unsubstantiated
> and inaccurate prejudice
>
> Chairs - please can this be dealt with - this individual has already made
> accusations of Neo colonialism with no  basis - and nothing was done - but
> enough is enough.
>
> Every member of Afrinic is equal in their right to be heard - be they
> black or white - South African or Egyptian or Congolese or Senegalese.  The
> type of racial drivel and divisive language is what tears this community
> apart - and is totally intolerable.
>
> Consider this an official complaint about conduct
>
> Andrew
>
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> _____________________________
> From: Jackson Muthili <jacksonmuthi at gmail.com<mailto:
> jacksonmuthi at gmail.com>>
> Sent: Monday, December 18, 2017 14:15
> Subject: Re: [rpd] Two more petitioners
> To: Andrew Alston <andrew.alston at liquidtelecom.com<mailto:andrew.alston@
> liquidtelecom.com>>
> Cc: rpd <rpd at afrinic.net<mailto:rpd at afrinic.net>>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 6:10 PM, Andrew Alston
> Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com<mailto:Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com>>
> wrote:
> > As per attached
> >
> > _____________
>
> Extract of attached petitions in quotes below and comments therein
>
> > To: The AFRINIC POLICY DEVELOPMENT CO-CHAIRS
> > RE: IPv4 Soft Landing Bis
> > I, the undersigned, representing Afrihost SP hereby wish to state my
> clear and unambiguous
> > opposition to the IPv4 Soft Landing BIS proposal,
> AFPUB-2016-V4-001-DRAFT-07
> > I oppose this policy because I believe that the policy in its current
> form is harmful to the industry
>
> Can the opposer or the convener of the opposers explain the harm that
> will befall our dear industry?
>
> > and
> > irrespective of the motives of the authors, will have the effect of
> limiting the growth of Internet
> > penetration in Africa.
>
> According to various sources, about 13.5% of the African population
> has Internet access. While Africa accounts for 15.0% of the world's
> population, only 6.2% of the World's Internet subscribers are
> Africans. Africans who have access to broadband connections are
> estimated to be in percentage of 1% or lower.
>
> These metrics tell a compelling story about a continent whose internet
> is growing, but is still constrained through infrastructure, save for
> one country that is South Africa, where all the opposers or their
> convener appears to emanate. While their concerns are selfishly in the
> interest of their business landscape and interests, the situation in
> the other 53 countries is a far cry from the reality in South Africa.
>
> For the internet to continue to grow, they will need affordable means
> to acquire IPv4 address space for a considerable time in the
> foreseeable future. Even if the IPv6 argument holds true, we have
> argued on here that IPv6 is the future, yes, but Africa, South Africa,
> Americas and the others are still far from that IPv6 future. We would
> otherwise not be having this conversation.
>
> For the Internet to grow in Africa and for the unconnected to still
> get connected, the need to preserve IPv4 space in the registry and
> still make it available to both new and existing operators is as
> extremely critical as the need itself to get connected. I cannot see a
> better policy to assure this than this one.
>
> > I further believe that to lock space up in a manner that ensures that it
> will still be unused after the
> > rest of the world has moved to V6,
>
> If the rest of the world has moved to IPv6, AFRINIC will not have run
> out of IPv6 space to dole out to our communities and businesses. They
> will all just get IPv6 simple and easy.
>
> > thereby wasting a precious African resource until such a point as
> > it will be worthless is completely contrary to the interests of the
> African industry as a whole.
>
> The principle is to fairly distribute the resource in a period of
> scarcity, not to greedily dole it out to the wealthiest. Do not ignore
> the fact that AFRINIC serves a community of 54 African countries. It
> does not sell IP addresses in a capitalist free market system where
> the richest take it all at the expense of the poorer. If the resource
> ever becomes worthless, IPv6 would be up and running, and the
> continent wins. The issue is not the *worth* or *value* of the
> resource, but getting everyone connected. Do not lose the purpose of
> the argument.
>
> > Finally, I believe that this policy and its implementation are in direct
> conflict with section 3.4.ii of the
> > AFRINIC bylaws, which reads (with particular emphasis on relevant
> wording indicated):
> > (Under Types and Objects of the company)
> > 3.4 The Company shall have, both within and outside the Republic of
> Mauritius, full capacity to carry
> > and/or undertake any business or activity, including, but not limited
> to, the following objects:
> > 3.4.i To provide the service of allocating and registering Internet
> resources for the purpose of
> > enabling communications via open system network protocols and to assist
> in the development and
> > growth of the Internet in the African region.
>
> :-) no comment on this one
>
> anyhoo I realized last call passed. My thoughts to the petitioners and
> their convener are to show that the points in their signed document
> are, although plausible in a different context, are mostly immaterial
> for all intents and purposes of this proposal.
>
> I trust in good judgement of chairs as discussions progress.
>
> J
>
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> Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2017 04:54:43 +0000
> From: Badru Ntege <badru.ntege at nftconsult.com>
> To: Sander Steffann <sander at steffann.nl>
> Cc: General Discussions of AFRINIC <community-discuss at afrinic.net>,
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> Subject: Re: [rpd] [Community-Discuss]  Removal of a director
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> Boubaker
>
> I can surmise it in one word ?hogwash?
>
> Regards.
>
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> On 18 Dec 2017, at 18:18, Sander Steffann <sander at steffann.nl<mailto:san
> der at steffann.nl>> wrote:
>
> Hi Boubakar,
>
> Can someone summarize this for us? I anticipate that it will be very much
> appreciated.
>
> Sure! In fact, Andrew already anticipated most of that in his email:
>
> The summary though is as follows:
>
> ? YES the members can remove a director ? the process would be as follows:
>
>    ? Utilizing clause 7.6.viii of the bylaws invoke an SGMM ? for the
> purposes of passing a special resolution to amend the bylaws to allow the
> community to remove a director ? and please note ? that special resolution
> could set the required voting percentage to remove said director at
> whatever they liked ? there is now low watermark ? it is subject to
> whatever is in the constitution (as per section 138.2 of the companies act)
>    ? Once (a) was completed ? call a second SGMM ?  for the express
> purpose of the removal of one or more directors ? send out the notice of
> said meeting with the required 14 day notice period - and then pass a
> resolution as permitted by the process performed in (a)
>
> Many of the details depend on whether legally Resource Members are seen as
> shareholders of Afrinic, or if only the 9 Registered Members (= the board)
> are considered as such. It is a question that I honestly have no answer to,
> and although Andrew expressed his opinion, he does note that he is not a
> lawyer and would like independent legal counsel on the matter.
>
> Cheers,
> Sander
>
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