[rpd] Opposition to the changes in the AfriNIC Soft Landing Policy

[Seun Ojedeji]

Hello,

Yes that is somewhat different in that it proposes a reduction from /22 to
/24 while current softlanding proposal proposes a reduction from /13 to /18
which is still way more than what RIPE provides, with option to receive
more than once.

The PDWG may want to consider if staying in the middle say /16 serves as a
compromise for all.

Regards
Sent from my mobile
Kindly excuse brevity and typos

On Dec 7, 2017 6:38 AM, "John Hay" <jhay at meraka.csir.co.za> wrote:

Hi All,

A while back someone noted that RIPE was also busy with something similar,
although not exactly the same. After a long debate the proposal was
withdrawn. You can read the proposal and discussion from the links below.

https://www.ripe.net/participate/policies/archived-policy-
proposals/archive-policy-proposals/

You can follow the thread here in the September and October 2017 archives:

https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/address-policy-wg/

I'm against the proposed changes to the Soft Landing policy. I really do
not think it will do anything to promote IPv6 roll out and I think it will
slow down Internet roll outs to the people in Africa.

PS. Neither me nor the organisation I work for will benefit either way.

Regards

John



On 6 December 2017 at 22:33, Christian Ahiauzu <christian.ahiauzu at uniport.
edu.ng> wrote:

> Hi Owen,
>
> I believe you did in the best way you can. Even though I don't agree with
> you on this, I respect your views.
>
> BR
>
> Christian.
> On Dec 6, 2017 6:31 PM, "Owen DeLong" <owen at delong.com> wrote:
>
>> Christian,
>>
>> I believe I previously answered your question below about why we need the
>> appeal this time.
>>
>> If that isn’t a sufficient answer, let me know and I will attempt to
>> reiterate things more clearly.
>>
>> Owen
>>
>> On Dec 6, 2017, at 01:07 , Christian Ahiauzu <
>> christian.ahiauzu at uniport.edu.ng> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> In fact, I have been wondering what the last call period is for. Please
>> put me on the right lane. Is the last call period not meant to check if
>> there are still any objections to the policy proposal under discuss? If my
>> postulation is true, then it means if sustained objections are found at
>> this point, then the policy will likely not be sent for ratification by the
>> board.
>>
>> If all the above be the case, then was there actually any need for
>> invoking an appeal process at this point? Why didn't we just get further
>> objections to the policy proposed and discuss way forward. I am really lost
>> here and need clarification especially from Andrew who initiated the Appeal
>> process.
>>
>> BR
>> Christian.
>> On Dec 6, 2017 8:17 AM, "Alan Levin" <alan at futureperfect.co.za> wrote:
>>
>>> Oops sorry I wasn't finished..
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 9:08 AM, Alan Levin <alan at futureperfect.co.za>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am surprised that we have not heard from these "Chairs", in fact I
>>>> had to look up who the chairs actually are...
>>>>
>>>> I believe that this page shows: https://afrinic.net/en/
>>>> community/policy-development/pdwg
>>>>
>>>> 1. Dewole Ajao
>>>>
>>> 2. Sami Salih
>>>
>>> Gentlemen, we clearly require your leadership here.
>>>
>>> Whilst I see the Board has been acquiring legal assistance to deal with
>>> their own group, we really don't want to get to that level here please.
>>>
>>> Dewole, Sami - you do not have sufficient support for this policy,
>>> please end this discussion and start a new one!
>>>
>>> Kind thanks
>>>
>>> Alan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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